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What did Paul McGowan do to you that you are on such a sustained campaign against his company?

Note: He doesn't manufacture or sell vinyl.

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What did Paul McGowan do to you that you are on such a sustained campaign against his company?

Probably something similar to whatever it is that Audioquest's Bill Low did to him.

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Ever since I seen that DVD, Coal to Cole......I have nightmares about everything....creeped me out......it's like Mr. Rogers from Hell.........do you think the guy is creepy or what? He also sells a side of magic wires......it makes me shudder, Mr. Rogers selling wires........douche chills

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Dup, My wife says try warming the water first, but a healthy vagina shouldn't need one.

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Ever since I seen that DVD, Coal to Cole......I have nightmares about everything....creeped me out......it's like Mr. Rogers from Hell.........do you think the guy is creepy or what? He also sells a side of magic wires......it makes me shudder, Mr. Rogers selling wires........douche chills

LOL He does seem creepy. I have his amp from the late 80's. It's a really good amp. It holds its own even today.

Check out the Stereophile review

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Even JGH wanted specs....he talks about it in the last pages, ALSO, this has to be a typo it has a slew rate of 300V/milli Seconds...??!!! Checkout the spec page. mS is milli, micro is uS that is like a bad telephone delay. if that truly is the specs...baaaaaaad even for 1985, that would slur every detail into mush. What was $1695 then in today's dollar$? And was the dude as creepy then as he appears now......And what is the same with Ps, lotsa hyped exagerations, Copper Semi conductors....IBM is just now getting that perfected in chips now...in 1985 didn't exist...that's the problem with most marketeers, they exagerate shit. As was pointed out by the magazine...the case is copper, and the heat sink.....there is no copper semiconductors back then....and even now, it's part of the substrate, instead of Al....doesn't Ps sell some kind of noise blinker that turns noise into light? Now that's creepy personified...cus' it's bizzare claims, on his magic blinking hypnotizer. If he wanted to be more truthful sounding, he would say when teh LED blinks it's an indicator of a spike or something, not that it's doing what his retarded ads claim...it's not UL listed is it? Since commercial spike protectors meet UL standard I think 1449 or something, as the barest of bare minimums.....Is it Ps or BS?

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Nonsense. You have had it in for PS Audio long before this DVD.

What's your issue with PS Audio?

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Too much hype, just like most. a new twist is a major audible breakthrough So few that are under embellishment, that then over perform without the hype. The few, the best, the proud. Have you watched that DVD....eeesssshhhh. Pictures of high tension towers, substation transformers, didn't it show the Hoover dam or something too, yeah, you are directly connected to the turbines at a power plant!!! somehow THAT effects what you hear in the home....are you friggin dim or what?

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sounds harmless to me. What I can say with assurance is that I bought two of their entry level power cords and could not be more pleased.

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Can you elaborate what is an "entry level power cord". Is that some terminology dreamed up by elves in trees making magic AC line cords? What did you "enter" now that you have one of these incredible wires? Did you know that in anything else for consumers there are no replacement line cords, that somehow improve what the device does, when it came with a proper guage, proper insulation type for what ever purpose the thing was made. Are there improved line cords for a Milwaukee SAWZALL? That makes it perform better than with the cord that comes with it, don't see that marketed, why? One man's entry is another man's exit?

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And don't forget: for the easily intimidated Paul
McGowan is scary.

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Can you elaborate what is an "entry level power cord". Is that some terminology dreamed up by elves in trees making magic AC line cords? What did you "enter" now that you have one of these incredible wires? Did you know that in anything else for consumers there are no replacement line cords, that somehow improve what the device does, when it came with a proper guage, proper insulation type for what ever purpose the thing was made. Are there improved line cords for a Milwaukee SAWZALL? That makes it perform better than with the cord that comes with it, don't see that marketed, why? One man's entry is another man's exit?

Let's see. My amp came with a power cord that was exactly like any $8 Radio Shack one. The Amp worked and sounded good. I bought, on a whim, one of those new HI-FI fuses with the plated gold at the exhorbitant cost of about $30, not expecting any real effect but, on some tracks, new noises appeared. My question was, what am I hearing? If a fuse can produce minor change, what would a power cord do? I bought a PS Audio cord, plugged it in and listened to the same tracks with the odd new noises. Oddly, the noises became distince instruments...not something buried in the mush of the soundstage, but distinct things, easily heard, that dissapear into the background mush then I put the old cords back on.

Now you can call that pixie dust, magic or a placebo effect. I don't care. I hear a difference I like, the cords cost less than $200 total, and they make a difference.

Actually, I pity you if you Cannot Hear any change. I recomend a audiogram as perhaps you have a hearing loss I have avoided so far.

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That's funny, $30 magic fuses...and it made a difference in what you heard. I bet you take out the $30 FUSE!!! hahahahaha, put in a standad glass fuse for about 50 cents or $1 and it will sound the same if you don't know it has been changed, how gullible are you? In a recent sonic shakedown, amplifers using very standard heavy duty 14 guage smoked other amplifers with some pretty cool looking stuff. What kind of fuses are in the recording chain of the thing you listened to? What kind of AC line cords are in the original equipment to record the source material, something is very illogialc about magic AC cords, fuses, interconnects. Do they have any replacement fuses or cords for my new GE washer dryer set, I'd need it for 220V single phase and teh washer uses 15A cord, in white, shouldn't it do something better in teh washer too, the new washer has all kinds of electronics to control it, surely the magic can't appear only in audio, since the electrons don't know where they are going, do they? $30 fuses!!!! I got some beads that are said to make things grow real tall. And it will take you to a land full of magic stuff. ho ho Ho, I smelll the blood of insanity...

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MCM or Parts Express have better deals, AC line cords for like $4 with IEC female or standrd line cords, $8 might be too much. $200 for a home use AC line cord......that's beyond funny. And I'm sure it has all kinds of industry test ratings, listings like a $10 extension cord even has? Right, so you know you got something that at least meets minumum standards, right, o it doesn't....hmmmm,

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Don't matter son. Your poor hearing should not and does not affect my audio decisions. A month ago distinct instruments were simply lost..today they are there. Believe what you will. Like Global Warming, the mere existence of a pop religion does not a universal truth make. You pretend knowledge of changes in my system and declare them false. I hear changes...you deny them....so, don't buy them and stay with your less discerning system. Your call.

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Don't matter son. Your poor hearing should not and does not affect my audio decisions. A month ago distinct instruments were simply lost..today they are there. Believe what you will. Like Global Warming, the mere existence of a pop religion does not a universal truth make. You pretend knowledge of changes in my system and declare them false. I hear changes...you deny them....so, don't buy them and stay with your less discerning system. Your call.

Epistemologic question:

How do you know his system is "less discerning?"

Perhaps he has better hearing than you and you require a tone control of some sort for your system to present an emphasized quality that you need, but not him.

(This is for the sake of discussion, I have seen the odd over-equalization DUP inflicts on himself, and read the comments of listeners who note the negative affect this has on his sound. I meant this more as a general question.)

I am constantly amazed that people who hear things others don't share their entusiasm for feel the need to declare themselves "more discerning."

Perhaps DUP chose gear that is built better and does not require the after market goodies than yours does in order to make up for some deficit.

There is more than "I am more discerning than you" to this subject, it just never gets voiced that way.

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I figure the good fellow is not speaking of just my experience but of the universe of experience with power lines and cables. As this universe is peopled with folk who DO hear changes in their systems as a result of cable changes, either they are all wrong and imagining things, or dup's less than discerning. Another possibility is that the good fellow has a hearing problem or, finaly, that his system is simply not discerning enough to hear plainly evident changes as a result of cables.

You can take your choise. I have some basic power cables and they made a change I like in my system. That gentleman discounts the idea. I don't care. I figure he is simply missing out on the ultimate peformance in his system. His choice

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