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WAF - what are the limits, really?

This is too good not to share. The excerpt below is from a poster on another audio forum somewhere in cyberspace:

I want to re-purpose the dining room, gut it and turn it into a listening room (how often do you use a dining room?). I met with extreme resistance from the “zoning committee”. LV is the fine lady that tries to put up with me, I'm JL:

LV: why do you need a full blown audio system in the living room? We already have two other systems (full blown HT system upstairs in the family room and a dedicated two channel system for the bedroom).

JL: you forgot the system I installed outside in the pool area

LV: *I can’t repeat what she said *

Conversation that took place last night..

LV: what are you doing????

JL: drinking and making a new set of 10 gauge speaker wires. Silver-over-copper, they’re gonna sound awesome!!

LV: why did you buy more wire, you already have four boxes of wires stacked up in the laundry room

JL: these are better

LV: there’s bits of wire all over the floor, are you gonna vaccum?

JL: maybe later, I’m focused. DH Labs Q10 Signature wire is beautiful

LV: *shakes her head*

Later on…

LV: those things look like hoses! I don’t want wire strewn across the room like that!

JL: I find them attractive

LV: drill a hole through the floor and run them under the house

JL: the crawl space under the house is likely very cramped, and I’m pretty certain there are vermin under there

LV: Man up

JL: I’m not sure it’s a good idea to have this fine speaker wire exposed to humidity and such

LV: The %@ wires have to go!

JL: Why?

LV: This is NOT a recording studio, it’s our home!!

JL: a recording studio would be off the charts awesome!!!

LV: I’ll beat you senseless with your wires if you don’t get this fixed

JL: care for a glass of wine?

LV went off to work early today as usual, while she’s out I unpacked and set up my Furutech room tuning panels behind my speakers to improve the sound further. Now when I blast Slipknot, System of a Down, and Tool everything sounds SO much better. What are the odds they’ll stay in place more than 15 minutes when she comes home?

...........................end of excerpt

Cheers,

Geoff Kait
Machina Dynamica
Advanced Audio Concepts

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WTF, WAF??

That was an awesome funny post.

For several years I have been taking heat for "monopolizing" the family room with audio (and video) equip't. Since I only get one room to energize, I have put together a multi-purpose 5.2 channel home theater with the emphasis on hi-rez, multi-channel music. There's also a vinyl section played through a Bellari tube pre and bi-amped front towers. It is fairly glorious, IMO. So while enduring much criticism and grief over the dominant audio architecture of the room, what do I hear when I come home for lunch several times a week? I hear Enya, Celtic Folk, Pop and Dance music playing so loud the walls shake. She likes it just fine, but resents my attachment, I think. Wimmen!

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I won a battle

After the flood, we had a blank (though soggy) slate. I wanted to move things around in the living/listening room and the wife really hated the idea of a couch that was not against a wall. But I won her over!

For three months I said yes to everything she asked or suggested about the house. Everything. She noticed how agreeable I was being after about three days! When she asked why, I told her I was going to agree with every suggestion she had about the house so that I could get her cooperation in one thing: changing the layout of the living/listening room.

I maintained this stance for months. Tonight, I will go home to the couch in the middle of the room and the listening room the way it sounds best!

Worth every second of it.

Trey

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You guys...

Do what I did, marry another electrical engineer.

The only "factor" that creates is that your stereo tends to be taken over by the spouse and her CD's. :)

But the upside is that then I just built another one. :)

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EE factor

Now that is a factor I could live with!

You lucky dog!

Trey

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It's SAF, not WAF

Hate to tell you boys, but it's no different with same-sex couples. The husband threatened to murder me if I brought one more set of sticks into the living room. I have five echo busters and two Shakti Hallographs that I have to keep tucked away, then move into place every time I listen. The listening couch needs to be hauled 90 degrees each time. And on it goes. It's relationship stuff... the stuff that makes the world go round.

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Good point

And I bet women audiophiles worry about HAF. We were being myopic in our kvetching!

Good on you for being so considerate and willing to do the work to keep him happy while keeping the tunes sounding right to you!

Trey

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WAF - Things that might be a problem

Here's a brief list of No-nos if you're worried about WAF.

1. Suspending all cabling from the ceiling.

2. Building some Enid Lumley speaker cable tunnels out of 2x4s and suspending the cables from thread inside the tunnels.

3. More than one Skyline diffuser on the walls.

4. More than three levels of vibration isolation under any one component.

5. More than 5 Shun Mook Mpingo discs in the room.

6. More than two Shakti Holographs.

7. More than two Room Lenses.

8. Homemade cement speaker stands.

9. More than three acoustic resonators.

10. More than 4 quartz dots on the walls.

11. Liberal use of crystal vases in room corners.

12. Spare electron tubes on display because they look cool.

13. Bookcase dislaying complete library of Absolute Sound and Audio.

14. Any kind of ceiling treatment.

15. Holes punched in carpet so tips of cones can go all the way down to the cement floor.

16. Use of damping pads under the legs of all couches, bookcases and tables in the room.

17. More than 4 chairs in the sweet spot.

Cheers,

G. Kait
M. Dynamica

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solution

buy her an mp3 player and fill it with her favorite music. She can use it wherever she wants. Pretty soon she's getting real used to listening to music. A lot. She likes it. Then, let her plug it into The System, and she'll be amazed at how much better it sounds. She'll love it. You're set. :)

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WAF positive results

What you did would work fine.

When she heard my system for the first time, long ago, she was impressed, but the experience ruined her so she can't listen to the car radio until enough time passes.

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hmmmm

I upgraded my daughter's car system for her good grades. Now I want to drive it! It was just putting in an iPod receiver that would use the line outputs from the pod and changing out the speakers. Total outlaw was about $200 and 3 hours, but I am no threat to Bob Villa, so you could maybe do it faster.

I am looking forward to my next car because I am going to see what kind of sound I can get in it.

Trey

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The Factor
Drtrey3 wrote:

Now that is a factor I could live with!

You lucky dog!

Trey

In electrical engineering, with highly reactive components, it's called a Power Factor. :)

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