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Too much attention?
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Both Attention Screen and Cantus do receive a lot of coverage.

It is excessive if judged solely on the relative merits of each group. They are good, but not world-changing good.

However, the Steophilecoverage details the creative process, the engineering that goes into the recordings we listen to, etc. This level of insight and detailed information is rarely available.

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Just think of Attention Screen as a musical version of Musical Fidelity and it'll help.

Maybe Sam or Art can do a write up of an Attention Screen watch or a Cantus ring tone?

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Maybe Sam or Art can do a write up of an Attention Screen watch or a Cantus ring tone?


That'll be in our August issue.

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Both Attention Screen and Cantus do receive a lot of coverage.

It is excessive if judged solely on the relative merits of each group. They are good, but not world-changing good.

However, the Stereophilecoverage details the creative process, the engineering that goes into the recordings we listen to, etc. This level of insight and detailed information is rarely available.

Exactly the point, Elk. We can either publish dry-as-dust tutorials on subjects like this, or actively get involved in order to generate interesting articles. There is also the fact that my having engineered, mixed, and mastered these recordings, they are superb tools for my use in reviewing components, as well as by those writers also involved in making the recordings. See Wes Phillips' essay on this subject at http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/856/ .

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I agree it is informative to have insight from behind the green curtain, but to see adverts for gigs, CDs et al, it makes it all seem like a plug. Now if you were given the same access to Donald Fagan or another mainstream artist for whom you are not selling for, there would be no issue.

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Now if you were given the same access to Donald Fagan or another mainstream artist for whom you are not selling for, there would be no issue.

Unfortunately this is a big "if."

Even recording enthusiast magazines (e.g., EQ], Mix) that produce articles on pop artists such as this do not offer much more than equipment lists and a few tidbits such as "the vocal double tracking was done automatically, John Lennon style, but with digital tools rather than a second oscillator driven analog tape deck."

Big whoopee.

John's response also raises an excellent point. Not only are these recordings recorded and engineered to audiophile standards, they provide a common reference for reviewers and readers.

I have trouble being offended by the ads for the recordings. These support small artists with whom we are are familiar, provide access to the shared reference materials and may support the magazine as well. Info re gigs allows readers to go hear them live.

Frankly I would be more offended and less interested if Dan Fagen was featured; I find Steely Dan and its derivatives exceedingly tiresome.

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For whatever it's worth, I enjoy reading the articles & I have no problems with the ads. I bought A.S.'s first disc & while it's not my "cup of tea", I think it's great the concerts are open to readers! I also bought "Editor's Choice" & really like the disc! I also enjoy reading the notes on the various songs JA made available on the website. I printed them out & have read them while listening to the music; excellent!! Further, I don't even have a problem with any of the guys(JA, WP, RJR,etc.)"plugging" the dics or concerts!

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Having been present at the April Attention Screen recording session in NYC, this classical music critic can say with all sincerity that there are many exquisite moments in these improvs that took my breath away.

Each Attention Screen session and recording is different. Do not assume that the second and third recordings are more of the same. They are not.

jason victor serinus

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Why do we keep reading about Attention Screen in Stereophile?
Mr. Atkinson-As the editor of the magazine and apparently the engineer for the group, is seems rather self serving to promote them in Stereophile. I have seen ads, promotions, write ups, and more. Make it stop!

The necessary response is, "Turn the page". Or go complain to Linn that their recordings also take up too much space on their webpage. Stereophile magazine/Stereophile recordings; get it? If insight and knowledge are not your thing, turn the page to find something else. What a concept!

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Thanks JVS!

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Why do we keep reading about Attention Screen in Stereophile?
Mr. Atkinson-As the editor of the magazine and apparently the engineer for the group, is seems rather self serving to promote them in Stereophile. I have seen ads, promotions, write ups, and more. Make it stop!

The necessary response is, "Turn the page". Or go complain to Linn that their recordings also take up too much space on their webpage. Stereophile magazine/Stereophile recordings; get it? If insight and knowledge are not your thing, turn the page to find something else. What a concept!


That says it all!!

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That says it all!!

Yes, that's the reason I let my Linn subscription lapse.

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Why do we keep reading about Attention Screen in Stereophile?
Mr. Atkinson-As the editor of the magazine and apparently the engineer for the group, is seems rather self serving to promote them in Stereophile. I have seen ads, promotions, write ups, and more. Make it stop!

The necessary response is, "Turn the page". Or go complain to Linn that their recordings also take up too much space on their webpage. Stereophile magazine/Stereophile recordings; get it? If insight and knowledge are not your thing, turn the page to find something else. What a concept!

I can and often do turn the page. Sure bash my insight and knowledge. It was never made clear these were "Stereophile recordings" My observation is they sure get lots of press..

Much of Stereophile is a page turner as most products reviewed are just out of this world expensive. Best thing I have read in a while was the article on the old Advent speakers. Right up my alley, like my $200 pair of MC30 monoblocks.

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It was never made clear these were "Stereophile recordings" My observation is they sure get lots of press..

Everyone unclear on this issue, please raise your hand.

Sloober, I'm guessing there's something about the word "attention" that doesn't sit well with you.

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It was never made clear these were "Stereophile recordings"


You're kidding. How could you miss this?


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Much of Stereophile is a page turner as most products reviewed are just out of this world expensive.


I suspect your rapid page turning caused your lack of understanding.

The magazine reviews everything from very inexpensive to Ferrari Enzo expensive; it's an enthusiast magazine.

That said, given that I don't fish, I find even the cheapest bass boat ridiculously pricey.

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You're kidding. How could you miss this?


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Much of Stereophile is a page turner as most products reviewed are just out of this world expensive.


I suspect your rapid page turning caused your lack of understanding.

The magazine reviews everything from very inexpensive to Ferrari Enzo expensive; it's an enthusiast magazine.

That said, given that I don't fish, I find even the cheapest bass boat ridiculously pricey.

Cheapest Bass Boat

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05027a.jpg

Note: that one has been recalled, so don't get it, get a different one.

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I like it!

And it can be used for many other things.

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It was never made clear these were "Stereophile recordings"


You're kidding. How could you miss this?


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Much of Stereophile is a page turner as most products reviewed are just out of this world expensive.


I suspect your rapid page turning caused your lack of understanding.

The magazine reviews everything from very inexpensive to Ferrari Enzo expensive; it's an enthusiast magazine.

That said, given that I don't fish, I find even the cheapest bass boat ridiculously pricey.

Cheapest Bass Boat

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05027a.jpg

Note: that one has been recalled, so don't get it, get a different one.

How do I determine which is the different one?
Does it cost more?
Can the differences if any be measured?

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There is no way to determine which is better without blind fishing.

Don't forget the placebass effect.

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There is no way to determine which is better without blind fishing.

Don't forget the placebass effect.

Get the hook!

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There is no way to determine which is better without blind fishing.

Don't forget the placebass effect.

Get the hook!

For the bass?

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