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Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?

So my sweet spot is one foot in front of my speakers and right between them. What's up with that?

My speakers are in a 10 x 15 room and about 2 ft from the back wall, 2 ft from the side walls, which makes them about 6 ft apart from each other. I usually listen to music in my bed at the other end and it sounds really good. But the other day I sat in a chair right between my speakers and it sounded amazing. 3-d even. It sounded like the voice was right in front of me and there was surround sound. So I have two questions:

Is this what it's supposed to sound like when my speakers are placed correctly and the room is treated correctly?

Can I achieve this type of imaging and immediacy in my usual listening spot?

To put it briefly, when I'm seating in my usual spot it sounds like really good, but coming from my speakers. When I'm between the speakers, it sounds like the sound is floating and surrounding me. Would love to be able to achieve this amazing sound!

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Re: Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?

You've changed the mix of direct/reflected sound arriving at your ears by changing position. If the preferred position is 1' in front of your speakers, I know of no room treatment that will provide that sort of sound 13' farther away. That's not to say further experimentation with placement and room treatments won't provide better sound than what you presently experience from your normal listening position, they certainly should depending on your listening priorities. Beware of too much fiberglass in the way of "traditional" room treatments, they operate as broadband absorption devices and can remove much of the life of the music. Speaker placement and listening position are the first things to experiment with since they are free. I normally suggest you begin with the WASP system as a good starting point.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&p=wasp%20speaker%20placement&type=

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Re: Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?

I'll definitely check the WASP system out. The biggest thing about the new position is the immediacy of the music. It sounds so close. Do you think it's a result of more direct sound or more indirect from what I had been experiencing? Or is that not even the right question to ask? Is it strange that I prefer the sound from my speakers when I'm so close to them?

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Re: Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?


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Do you think it's a result of more direct sound or more indirect from what I had been experiencing?

Yes, consider just what you are hearing.


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Is it strange that I prefer the sound from my speakers when I'm so close to them?

There are far stranger things that have been reported.

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Re: Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?


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Is this what it's supposed to sound like when my speakers are placed correctly and the room is treated correctly?


Yes!


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Can I achieve this type of imaging and immediacy in my usual listening spot?


Yes, this is done by putting absorbers at the side-wall and ceiling reflection points. If you can't hang absorbers from the ceiling, doing only the sides will still help a lot. However, in a small room like yours, "early" reflections from the wall behind you are also a cause of lost imaging. Ideally you'll use proper absorber panels at all of those places, but even hanging tripled-up bath towels will help a lot. It's a simple and free experiment you can try. These articles explain further:

How to set up a room
Early Reflections

--Ethan

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Re: Sweet spot or am I tricking myself?

I kind of thought that's what a good system should sound like. When I was in that spot, I was like, wow, the music is so tangible, so real. I'm incredibly happy that I found that spot, but after going to the WASP websites and Ethan's website, I don't think I have the ability to tweak my listening room (bedroom shared with girlfriend) to sound like that. At least I found a place where I can experience the music like it should sound...

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