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So, im digging this Icelandic country singer gal. She is great...
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Not Bjork. Whew!

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Does your computer have Amazon ?????

There are all sorts of well known artists that dont live in trailers or igloos !!! or is this a kinfolk thing ?

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Does your computer have Amazon ?????

There are all sorts of well known artists that dont live in trailers or igloos !!! or is this a kinfolk thing ?

Man, that was a low blow.

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Does your computer have Amazon ?????

There are all sorts of well known artists that dont live in trailers or igloos !!! or is this a kinfolk thing ?

Man, that was a low blow.

hes just talking shit. ill let it build up and unleash a hail mary when he least expects it.

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Kinda Feist-y with a twang. The bleating sheep on "Little By Little" was a touch of bucolic nirvana. Good catch again, nc.

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thanks, man, though I must give all the credit to the NPR affiliate here. that station has turned me on to a lot of great music.

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I listen to my NPR affiliate during the day because nobody gets offended by it. They just play elevator music all day. In the afternoon they start their own version of talk radio. Government funded of course. Your tax dollars at work.

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Sounds like the Scandinavian Patsy Cline. heard her on NPR today.

Excellent find!

Thanks.

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I listen to my NPR affiliate during the day because nobody gets offended by it. ... Government funded of course. Your tax dollars at work.

Public radio receives very little government funding, and this is specific grants for programming - not a blank check. Public funds make up a single digit percentage of local stations' budgets, somewhere around 2% for NPR.

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I listen to my NPR affiliate during the day because nobody gets offended by it. ... Government funded of course. Your tax dollars at work.

Public radio receives very little government funding, and this is specific grants for programming - not a blank check. Public funds make up a single digit percentage of local stations' budgets, somewhere around 2% for NPR.

Thank you, sir.! May I have another?

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Thank you, sir.! May I have another?

Nope.

You have to wait until you make yet another factually unfounded assertion that I feel like correcting.

There are too many for me to keep up with them all.

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Except you're full of crap on the 2%. That is just for bidding on grants. You're leaving out state and federal funding to operate stations from state universities for example. But I will concede that their government funding has been decreasing for years. All together it is more like 30% the last several years. You can read financial statements? Don't forget about the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which is federally funded, state universities, and direct encumbering from federal, state, and local governments. NPR files a Form 990 and makes their financial statement public. Personally, I think you got your 2% figure from wikipedia. I thought you didn't like wikipedia?

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Now its 30%? At least it is no longer a blanket "your tax dollars at work."

At least you are going in the right direction: quickly down.

From NPR's site (since when is NPR associated with Wikipedia?):

"A very small percentage -- between one percent to two percent of NPR's annual budget -- comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations."

Even assuming that college and university support is public dollars (in my end of the world NPR affiliates are housed in private institutions) this support is small and in the form of in-kind donations (that is, allowed to use space with no rent).

NPR notes that some rural and minority community affiliates receive much of their budget from CPB: "In many cases, they are the sole local broadcasting service available. These stations receive significantly higher funding from CPB - in some cases, as much as two-thirds of their budgets - since many of their listeners simply don't have the financial resources to provide support."

It strikes me as unlikely that you are listening to one of these stations.

Something also tells me that while you listen on a daily basis you are not a member of your local NPR affiliate. One would think conservatives would support the model: pay as you go.

You may find that keeping that knee in a sling will keep it from jerking quite so violently.

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* 32.1% from listeners in the form of pledges, memberships, and other donations
* 21.1% from businesses via corporate underwriting
* 10.1% from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which is federally funded*
* 13.6% from licensee support (including colleges and universities)
* 9.6% from foundations and major gifts
* 5.8% from federal, state, and local governments
* 7.6% from all other sources.

If you take the time to read the financials you will see that NPR as well as PBS receives $400 million dollars annually from the CPB. That is 15% of their combined operating expenses. That is federal dollars. I don't know why you are making such a fuss over the 2% thing you found on wikipedia. It is part of the 5.8% listed above. And lets not even think about some of these foundations that are pass-through-entities funded by the government. Even a conservative guess would be at least 20%. But that isn't so.

Fact remains, if NPR lost all revenue directly and indirectly received by the government they would lose half their audience in one year. The next year it would be lights off.

Some of you guys would turn gay if AM talk radio received one dollar of tax money.

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I've already addressed the licensee support (free rent from private colleges and universities).

The 10.1% average CPB per station support cited is after one takes into account the heavily subsidized rural and minority stations I already referenced (stations to which you are not listening).

Now your down to 16.9% "tax dollars" at best; much less for the typical NPR affiliate that the majority of us here with Internet access would listen to.

I don't understand your issue with Wikipedia, but I have already provided the source quote for my statement (it's on the same page you quote above). Thus I know you can find it.


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Fact remains, if NPR lost all revenue directly and indirectly received by the government they would lose half their audience in one year. The next year it would be lights off.

Fact? As President Reagan would say, "Well, there you go again."

Lose their audience? Why? If they broadcast people will listen.

Additionally, government funding has already been cut a couple of times since the figures you cite (which are 2008).

NPR is still around. Go figure.

However, cut the 2/3 operating budget funding for the rural stations where an NPR affiliate is the only broadcaster and where the local population cannot afford a station and, yes, the station will go under. Is this what you want?

This last situation is indeed our tax dollars at work and, I posit, a good thing - an informed populace is of value to all of us.

Apologies to the OP. Sometime the AM radio dittoheads get to me with their "factual" pronouncements.

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Nothing is free. I hope you're not a CPA? You're still full of crap. My name is pit and you ain't digging your way out of this one.


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If they broadcast people will listen.

Yeah, look what happened to Air America. On AM radio.

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