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Help! Government! Save us from hot dogs!

"They're much more than a tailgating staple. In a new paper, the American Academy of Pediatrics says hot dogs are also a choking hazard to children and should come with a warning label. About 17% of food-related asphyxiations in those younger than 10 are caused by hot dogs, according to a 41-state study cited in the paper. The American Academy of Pediatrics went so far as to say that hot dogs should be redesigned to make it less likely that they will get lodged in the throats of the young."

Somewhere between 61 and 77 kids in America choke to death on food per year.

Hot dogs account for 17% of those deaths.

So, around a dozen kids per year.

There are 62 million kids aged 14 or under in the U.S.

So, somewhere in the neigborhood of one in 7-10 million kids die from choking on a hot dog in a given year.

Of course, that deserves to make national headlines and now "concerned" people are now demanding safer hot dogs and labels warning people that they could possibly choke on a hot dog.

I vote we brand that warning directly onto the hot dogs in case some unwary consumer accidentally gets hold of a rogue dog that isn't in a package that has the warning label. I demand we label each hot dog (and grape) individually.

Good lord.

(Actually, I find the numbers encouraging, it looks more and more like natural selection has already removed most of the idiots who can't master hot dog eating from the population.)

In 1999, 1776 children were killed by guns - so where are the fuckin' labels for those?

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Help! Government! Save us from hot dogs!

"They're much more than a tailgating staple. In a new paper, the American Academy of Pediatrics says hot dogs are also a choking hazard to children and should come with a warning label. About 17% of food-related asphyxiations in those younger than 10 are caused by hot dogs, according to a 41-state study cited in the paper. The American Academy of Pediatrics went so far as to say that hot dogs should be redesigned to make it less likely that they will get lodged in the throats of the young."

Somewhere between 61 and 77 kids in America choke to death on food per year.

Hot dogs account for 17% of those deaths.

So, around a dozen kids per year.

There are 62 million kids aged 14 or under in the U.S.

So, somewhere in the neigborhood of one in 7-10 million kids die from choking on a hot dog in a given year.

Of course, that deserves to make national headlines and now "concerned" people are now demanding safer hot dogs and labels warning people that they could possibly choke on a hot dog.

I vote we brand that warning directly onto the hot dogs in case some unwary consumer accidentally gets hold of a rogue dog that isn't in a package that has the warning label. I demand we label each hot dog (and grape) individually.

Good lord.

(Actually, I find the numbers encouraging, it looks more and more like natural selection has already removed most of the idiots who can't master hot dog eating from the population.)

In 1999, 1776 children were killed by guns - so where are the fuckin' labels for those?

Super point made here! WTF is wrong with Americans? Labels on everything and anything, warnings about consuming pills and alcohol at the same time, warnings about cats not being fit to dry in a microwave oven, warnings on HOT DOGS? Geez, you can choke on all kinds of food, toys, clothes, pillow cases, water, cigars, puke, and God knows what. Do your cars come with labels: You may crash and injury yourself and innocent bystanders operating this vehicle ??? And why not?

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So, somewhere in the neighborhood of one in 7-10 million kids die from choking on a hot dog in a given year.

Our chances of being killed or injured by lightning is 1:750,000.

Your chances of being killed in a run away Toyota is 30 times less likely than being hit by lightning, 1:22,500,000

Given all the fuss over Toyota's recall, hot dog manufacturers should be sentenced to painful capital punishment.

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Wow, I expect Congress will be subpoena-ing Oscar Mayer next.

I bet those geniuses will hold him in contempt if he doesn't show up, to boot.

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It's all just a bunch of bologna.

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You know, I could see Ball Park Frank on Capital Hill really getting grilled.

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"So, somewhere in the neigborhood of one in 7-10 million kids die from choking on a hot dog in a given year."

Um, don't you mean 7-10 kids? Sans million?

Plus, everyone knows what's really dangerous are grapes!!!! Like a mini drain plug right down a kid's gullet!

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"So, somewhere in the neigborhood of one in 7-10 million kids die from choking on a hot dog in a given year."

Um, don't you mean 7-10 kids? Sans million?

Plus, everyone knows what's really dangerous are grapes!!!! Like a mini drain plug right down a kid's gullet!

One in 7-10 million.

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Super point made here! WTF is wrong with Americans?

Fear of tort lawyers is what. We'll probably get our weenies sued off.

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You know, I could see Ball Park Frank on Capital Hill really getting grilled.

Only if they ketchup with him.

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I think if we all took a tour of a hot dog processing plant we would probably never eat another hot dog for the rest of our lives. "Scared Straght".

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Sure thing. I once worked in a renowned Danish bakery. The confectioner always had a cigarette in his mouth, dropping ashes onto expensive cakes, and the rest of the horde was the most derailed, perverted SOB's, who spit in the dough etc. Took me a long time to be able to eat their bread.

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I think if we all took a tour of a hot dog processing plant we would probably never eat another hot dog for the rest of our lives. "Scared Straght".

Heh, the worst job I ever had was doing cleanup at a meat processing/sausage making facility. That was 25 years ago and there are still certain meat "products" I won't touch.

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I think if we all took a tour of a hot dog processing plant we would probably never eat another hot dog for the rest of our lives. "Scared Straght".

trVth!

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Heh, the worst job I ever had was doing cleanup at a meat processing/sausage making facility. That was 25 years ago and there are still certain meat "products" I won't touch.

Really does give a new spin on 'where's the beef', doesn't it?

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When I was in school, I worked for a while on a locked psych ward.

There was one inmate who had incredible anger/rage issues - worse than an audio subjectivist!

He completed his stay and had done vocational rehab and got placed working at Winchell's Donuts.

About a week later, some of us went to say hello to him...

As you walked into Winchell's, there was a big window that allowed viewers to watch the donuts being prepared.

I saw Mr. X standing there in his white outfit and donut-guy hat and it looked like he was frying up a maple bar.

He saw us and waved and came out to the counter and threw his hat on the floor and started to rage about how he "hated this fucking place."

As he raged, he started naming all the offenses, both mortal and venal, that Winchell's had perpetrated upon him, and said it didn't really matter, he was showing them...

Turns out he had been deep frying his turds in the donut vat for the last several days.

I have not been back to a Winchell's since.

My bro-in-law has told me some pretty 'hairy' stories about his fast food experiences, as well. Yikes!

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I guess the diner waitress sneezing on your food is nothing compared to what your bro-in-law has told you? I'm curious

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I havent eaten meat since I read "the jungle" by upton sinclair.

a similarly digusting book--- FAST FOOD NATION

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I havent eaten meat since I read "the jungle" by upton sinclair.

a similarly digusting book--- FAST FOOD NATION

You are a complicated guy, nc. A red-neck, war vet, punk/roots/opera devotee, singer, recording engineer AND vegetarian. And I'm sure I've just hit the hi/lo lights

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I havent eaten meat since I read "the jungle" by upton sinclair.

a similarly digusting book--- FAST FOOD NATION

You are a complicated guy, nc. A red-neck, war vet, punk/roots/opera devotee, singer, recording engineer AND vegetarian. And I'm sure I've just hit the hi/lo lights

I think the operative word here is "confused" or "gets bored easily"

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Super point made here! WTF is wrong with Americans?

Fear of tort lawyers is what. We'll probably get our weenies sued off.

Matlock chomps on one every episode, so I wouldn't worry none too much.

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are you complaining about the state or the academy?

You say "state" but talk about the academy.
Still I guess this is the year of right wing desperation.
Please deliver me from government and put me in the caring arms of the McDonald corporation.
Yes, that makes plenty of sense!
Enjoy your dawg.

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Don't use big corporation products. Starting with the hardware and software you are currently using. That would also go for the technology behind your own audio equipment. Stop using it. You're only enabling "big corporations". That would make you as sick as they are.

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so your eply is: "I have nothing to say"?

That's OK.
Your attempt to move the subject to me is one that is common amongst your fellow rightists when they are cornered.
NO ability to argue a point so lots of shouting and then... hang on... you went an entire post without talking about anal sex... are you feeling alright?

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That's OK.
Your attempt to move the subject to me is one that is common amongst your fellow rightists when they are cornered.
NO ability to argue a point so lots of shouting and then... hang on... you went an entire post without talking about anal sex... are you feeling alright?

did you come here to bitch and moan about politics or to talk about audio?

if it is the former, why...youd fit right in on the huffington post forums..

if it is the latter, get on with it already.

btw.. you didnt answer my question about being a CPA member.

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That's OK.
Your attempt to move the subject to me is one that is common amongst your fellow rightists when they are cornered.
NO ability to argue a point so lots of shouting and then... hang on... you went an entire post without talking about anal sex... are you feeling alright?

did you come here to bitch and moan about politics or to talk about audio?

if it is the former, why...youd fit right in on the huffington post forums..

if it is the latter, get on with it already.

btw.. you didnt answer my question about being a CPA member.

Well, you know, Ohio dude while I think the man from Oz here is a bit much, he does have a point about "taking the argument to the other side" and "defining the debate", both methods that we've seen the jibbertyjabber right loonies use day after day, week after week, month after month...

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"did you come here to bitch and moan about politics": have you s

"It's not all-audio all-the-time in the Stereophile forums. The Open Bar is the place to discuss politics, entertainment, science and nature, sports and leisure, arts and literature, the weather, or whatever. Not for the faint of heart."
Perhaps you hadn't noticed that. Or perhaps you are the one bitching and moaning.
Is CPA some kind of accountants' organisation?
If so the answer is... no... I'm not an accountant.

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Please deliver me from government and put me in the caring arms of the McDonald corporation.
Yes, that makes plenty of sense!
Enjoy your dawg.

Wow, only those two choices, eh?

How about, leave us alone to choose to hot dog or not to hot dog?

I'll risk the slings and arrows of outrageous prepared meat products rather than have my government take arms against a sea of imagined troubles, and by opposing end them.

Don't treat on me...

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Nice flag...where can I get one

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I asked our rich Aussie friend with the custom built bachelor pad, situated on rainforest land several questions on another thread...he answered none of them He must be part of the prolitariate, since he is allowed to keep his upscale lifestyle and expensive toys.

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I asked our rich Aussie friend with the custom built bachelor pad, situated on rainforest land several questions on another thread...he answered none of them He must be part of the prolitariate, since he is allowed to keep his upscale lifestyle and expensive toys.

He is so cool...

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"It's not all-audio all-the-time in the Stereophile forums. The Open Bar is the place to discuss politics, entertainment, science and nature, sports and leisure, arts and literature, the weather, or whatever. Not for the faint of heart."
Perhaps you hadn't noticed that. Or perhaps you are the one bitching and moaning.
Is CPA some kind of accountants' organisation?
If so the answer is... no... I'm not an accountant.

You still need to contribute on the other forums. You still need to help newbies without insulting them on the other forums. In other words, you need to contribute to enjoy the Open Bar. Otherwise, the group is going to turn on you. But it is too late now. Who ever invited you here set you up.

The fact that you don't know what a CPA is tells me you're barking up the wrong tree bringing up American politics on a forum that is hosted in America and supported by a magazine that is published in America.

Tell us a little bit about your country. What is the state of the union right now? What are the tax rates? Who is the "Queen" of Australia? How do you see a doctor? What is the mortality rate for drunk driver related accidents? What has Australia contributed to the U.N.? You know, shit like that.

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"our rich Aussie friend with the custom built bachelor pad, situ

It seems you are getting your information from an outdated source, mate.
I haven't lived in the rainforest for at least 7 1/2 years.
On the other hand, it might be interesting for you to tell me or even "us" why you went looking for where I lived.
On another forum a rather similar member went dumpster diving in the archives and came up with a years old fragment that he used to claim I should be declaring an industry intere4st because I was a DJ.
"Was" was actually the operative word as I had DJ'd in the 80s.
Your whining tone that implies you cannot be a liberal centrist and have money serves only to show the paucity of thought that inhabits what passes for thought.
But I am sure I am not the first to say that.
You really must be stuck for something tow rite to resort to such puffery.
It's OK if you want to drop the subject now to avoid further embarrassment.

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On the other hand, it might be interesting for you to tell me or even "us" why you went looking for where I lived.

Will you shut the fuck up? Please.

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"the group is going to turn on you": I am quaking in my boots

"But it is too late now"
I apologise, I didn't realise it took a group effort to write your posts.
That might explain the lack of character in them and the rather bland loose wingnut content.
The threat of web vigilantism and bully doesn't work with me, sunshine, so (just in case I need to tell you) you can take your threats and stick them.
I'll be joining in the other threads as I read further down them and find subjects I'm interested (And possible knowledgeable about) and of course I look forward to reading your valuable contributions.
In the meantime, you can help me with one thing; can you tell me who made you goderator round here as you seem to have a deep seated sense of entitlement to having your views treated as sacrosanct?

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Is CPA some kind of accountants' organisation?
If so the answer is... no... I'm not an accountant.

what kind of an Australian are you(other than the limp wristed metrosexual serial post inappropriate misogynistic pictures of women so they wont know im "alternate" whinging about right wingers left wing nutbag kind") ??

http://www.cpa.org.au/

i bet the folks in the RSL love your ass.

youve made your entrance known. done all the token liberal earbashing, now can you please be interesting? couple of guys vouched for your worth as a contributor, lets see it then.

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"Will you shut the fuck up?":thanks for your charming reply

I have taken on board your comment about contributing to other forums, and went for a look...
In the last month, you have made 10 posts to Entry Level, 4 to March 2010, 41 to General Pants... sorry... General Rants (I wondered if you'd ever thought of using that as a nom de post here, it certainly would be appropriate!) and 120 here at the Bar.
But to get back to your riveting question (riveting in the sense I'd really have have been riveted to the keyboard to take it seriously), no I won't "shut the fuck up" and no, as a staunchly right winger, you won't get a free ride any more (not that I suspect you ever did).
By the way, you forgot to reply to my question about your eagerness to go hunting for details about my life. If you give me a clue about what you want to find I might be able to point you in the right direction.
It'll save you so much heartache... don't you think...?

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Nobody gives a shit what you think.

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"Nobody gives a shit what you think": then try not replying to m

I reckon it's even money you won't be able to resist.

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Look wanker, you don't answer ANY question put to you...that's why I looked you up dipshit! Fantasy will run amuck over a twisted self important snit like you my dear comrade. Have any brown shirts? You'd fit right in with the elitist progressive trite your peddling here. Get involved in the conversation and justify your warped world view...did daddy leave you when you were a boy

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If so the answer is... no... I'm not an accountant.

what kind of an Australian are you(other than the limp wristed metrosexual serial post inappropriate misogynistic pictures of women so they wont know im "alternate" whinging about right wingers left wing nutbag kind") ??

http://www.cpa.org.au/

i bet the folks in the RSL love your ass.

youve made your entrance known. done all the token liberal earbashing, now can you please be interesting? couple of guys vouched for your worth as a contributor, lets see it then.

Hey, NC, I liked that picture

So that's what CPA is. Do we still have one here ?

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"Look wanker...": still on the charm offensive I see

But in fact just another rant from a tea-potty.
"Look wanker, you don't answer ANY question put to you...that's why I looked you up dipshit!"
Then you had better learn how to do it better or you will always be left in everyone else's dust.
Perhaps that has an appeal to you...?
But you just carry on, and if you can come up with a reasonable question to ask me, then go ahead... surely you saw my answer to that one about being an accountant... and that was a kind of left field thing to ask, don't you think?

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Look wanker, you don't answer ANY question put to you...that's why I looked you up dipshit! Fantasy will run amuck over a twisted self important snit like you my dear comrade. Have any brown shirts? You'd fit right in with the elitist progressive trite your peddling here. Get involved in the conversation and justify your warped world view...did daddy leave you when you were a boy

I need a popcorn graemlin and some real popcorn to keep watching the show

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"what kind of an Australian are you": I didn't know we came in d

"other than the limp wristed metrosexual serial post inappropriate misogynistic pictures of women so they wont know im "alternate" whinging about right wingers left wing nutbag kind"
That description will probably keep you happy for a while.
Mind you, a screwed up paper bag would probably keep you happy for a week!
As for other contributions.... when you stop wasting everyone's time with these rather childish name calling (it really sounds as if you've just discovered some "rude" words and want to say them over and over...) and move on I'll have more time for useful posts.
OK?

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"other than the limp wristed metrosexual serial post inappropriate misogynistic pictures of women so they wont know im "alternate" whinging about right wingers left wing nutbag kind"
That description will probably keep you happy for a while.
Mind you, a screwed up paper bag would probably keep you happy for a week!
As for other contributions.... when you stop wasting everyone's time with these rather childish name calling (it really sounds as if you've just discovered some "rude" words and want to say them over and over...) and move on I'll have more time for useful posts.
OK?

Hey, Oz I know you were replying to ncdrawl.
The posting works differently here.
No matter whose post you click on to reply your reply will be at the end of the thread.

Now , back to my popcorn

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yes that sounds appropriate: sugary and salty at the same time..

... or maybe that was just a malfunction at the cinema...
Thanks, I have been having a bit of trouble working out who's saying what.
And even more trying to find sense in many of these posts which are beginning to read like several right wing members suffer from Tourette's Syndrome.
Are they always as eloquent as they are entertaining?

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Nobody gives a shit what you think.

Just for the record, I don't even give a shit what I think.

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Dave, Lamont is not so much a right winger as he is a curmudgeonly libertarian with a killer sense of ironic humor.

This is different than Water Cooler, much of what appears to be sincere iconoclasm is satirical or tongue in cheek (that's an English language idiom that as a FOREIGNER I won't expect you to know, but you can Google it.)

I do hand it to you, your command of American is quite good for a non-native speaker, mate. Oy.

Hey, join us in General Pants and you can help antagonize Danish people!

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Nobody gives a shit what you think.

Just for the record, I don't even give a shit what I think.

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Dave, Lamont is not so much a right winger as he is a curmudgeonly libertarian with a killer sense of ironic humor.

This is different than Water Cooler, much of what appears to be sincere iconoclasm is satirical or tongue in cheek (that's an English language idiom that as a FOREIGNER I won't expect you to know, but you can Google it.)

I do hand it to you, your command of American is quite good for a non-native speaker, mate. Oy.

Hey, join us in General Pants and you can help antagonize Danish people!

X2 on what Buddha said. Lamont has a killer sense of humor.

What happened to our our most radical right winger, JIMV ?

Haven't seen him lately.

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well antagonising Danish people does have an appeal

I suspect that "libertarians" are actually just right wingers with drugs, but I am prepared for the "odd" one to be different!
Since the little band of botherers here are having so much trouble figuring out what sort of Australian I am I think I'll post a link to my myspace where they can get a look at some of the houses I've built.
Do you think that would help them?
At the very least it would keep them busy for a while...

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Re: well antagonising Danish people does have an appeal


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I suspect that "libertarians" are actually just right wingers with drugs, but I am prepared for the "odd" one to be different!
Since the little band of botherers here are having so much trouble figuring out what sort of Australian I am I think I'll post a link to my myspace where they can get a look at some of the houses I've built.
Do you think that would help them?
At the very least it would keep them busy for a while...

Post the house link, I haven't seen them all, but the one I did see was cool.

"libertarians are right wingers on drugs"
that's a good one, I have a close libertarian friend I have to use that on

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Re: well antagonising Danish people does have an appeal


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Since the little band of botherers here are having so much trouble figuring out what sort of Australian I am I think I'll post a link to my myspace where they can get a look at some of the houses I've built.

LOL!

"Since all the pea brains here can't yet appreciate my genius and insight, I shall regale them with my MySpace relic."

Be sure to blow of the dust and clear the cobwebs first.

LOL, MySpace! Are you sure you have time to post the link? It may take a while to do with your Commodore 64.

Dude, maybe you can just Twitter us your greatness.

The answer to people "getting you" is to hang out and chat rather than proclaiming the hoi polloi not insightful enough for your (repetitive) take on the same subject over and over.

Your stunning variety of verbal tools and takes on many opinions will eventually win us over, much like it did for JIMV!

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