You are here

Log in or register to post comments
everyonesshadow
everyonesshadow's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Oct 16 2006 - 6:37pm
Politics in Stereophile

Dear JA

I will threaten to cancel my subscription if there is not more politics in Stereophile. Politics is part of everyday life. Every time we make a choice which we think will effect others we take political factors into account. (Choosing to ignore is still a choice)

The audiophile community obviously has its own internal politics: objective vs subjective vs tubes vs analogue vs... well, we all know the list. But there are also international-level issues such as outsourcing of manufacture, national issues such as physical stores vs online buying and personal issues such as whether Marina will allow Sam to have those in her living room.

Music, also, is political. Do I buy this benefit album? Buy re-issues or support currently working musicians? Would Shostakovich's music be as interesting without knowing of his conflict with the Soviet authorities? Would the history of Jazz be as fascinating if not for the struiggles many musicians had to perform their music and have it recorded?

And of course censorship of discussion is highly political.

Jeremy Close
everyones_shadow@yahoo.com.au

Monty
Monty's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 16 2005 - 6:55pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile

Yeah, I really wish National Review would review more stereo equipment and High Times would feature more articles on small engine repair.

CECE
CECE's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 17 2005 - 8:16am
Re: Politics in Stereophile

Hustler magazine has lotsa politics, they mix one asshole with another. Playboy does audio reviews and car reviews. "Tools of teh trade" magazine has jobsite radio reviews, they do comment on it's sound quality. Life is about intermingled subjects, if ya can't be ambidexterious, you may as well be Japanese, Look at only one thing, and nothing else, how boring, to be living with blinders, and focused on just one narrow issue. Has anyone read the Porsche review in The New England Journal of Medicine. Dr. Hamabibibi took a 911 for a test drive. After doing 3 brain surgureys he says there is nothing like a 911 to get you back to life, after seeing brain mush all day. He gave it 5 Scalpels out of 5 rating.

bifcake
bifcake's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Nov 27 2005 - 2:27am
Re: Politics in Stereophile


Quote:
Dear JA

...and personal issues such as whether Marina will allow Sam to have those in her living room...

I think you're making a tremendous leap of faith by suggesting that Sam has had THOSE in the first place. I submit that perhaps he never did, hence the issue of whether or not Marina will allow Sam to even indulge in the fantasy of having said THOSE is completely academic.

dcstep
dcstep's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 16 2007 - 4:59pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile


Quote:
Yeah, I really wish National Review would review more stereo equipment and High Times would feature more articles on small engine repair.

Yes, my feelings exactly. If the writers are not good enough to get a full-time job at a political rag, then keep quiet about it and stick to reviewing equipment and music in Stereophile. Yes, the politics of the music business is of interest to us, but that's all we want from this source.

I'm not considering cancelling, but I am tired of out-of-place pontificating in the middle of otherwise useful opinions.

Dave

Buddha
Buddha's picture
Offline
Last seen: 2 years 10 months ago
Joined: Sep 8 2005 - 10:24am
Re: Politics in Stereophile

Great topic!

It seems this site would be the perfect place for someone like Art Dudley (does he walk the walk, or just type the talk?) or JA to chat about how Stereophile views itself in the greater consumer/political world. I bet Stephen would care if his gear came from a factory that is environmentally hazardous, etc...

Does a Chinese tube amp with good sound and build quality get marked down for using underage or underpaid workers? Does it get a demerit for not providing an OSHA approved factory?

Do audiophiles take these things into consideration, anyway?

Some consumers are starting to see the irony of buying a cheaper Easter basket that was made in China by Christians kept in work prisons...maybe the outsourcing of Hi Fi manufacture to China deserves a few electronic column inches.

I admit to trying to avoid those products, but I also am not entirely sure I have been successful...exactly where were all the parts and labor sourced for my Marantz integrated or my Infinity Intermezzos?

Dave Wislon has, I think, made some very effective ads pointing out that he pays his workers better wages and uses more American product sources...it doesn't seem xenophobic so much as socially conscious.

So, I don't know. It seems like it would be fun to hear Stereophile talk about whether anything like that matters, but I don't think they need to use up paper and ink over it. Just chatting here over some organic, domestic, fair trade, emmission free, non-polluting beverages would be fine.

bjh
bjh's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 12 2005 - 2:33pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile


Quote:
Great topic!

Agreed!


Quote:
It seems this site would be the perfect place for someone like Art Dudley (does he walk the walk, or just type the talk?) or JA to chat about how Stereophile views itself in the greater consumer/political world. I bet Stephen would care if his gear came from a factory that is environmentally hazardous, etc...

What I find rather amusing is that the introduction of Chinese products into our little audio world seems to have brought the issue of cheap labor in counties with lax (or absent) worker rights and environmental standards into focus for some.

For example I find the reference to Stephen highly ironic since long before he was or wasn't a twinkle in his father

KBK
KBK's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 30 2007 - 12:30pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile

This is an easy one, guys!

Political commentary added to Stereophile, in a formal fashion, vs the already (and common everywhere) minimal bits of 'humans relating', via minimalist bits that are obstinately 'harmless'.

Result:
Added commentary-
A general uproar in a level that constitutes about 35% to about 50% of the subscribers.
Also: spillover into Peterson's OTHER brands, ie other magazines. This, via reflection from the commentary in Stereophile. BIG PROBLEMS..overall.

Then, no commentary whatsoever, just what exists now-

No issues whatsoever, except the odd person noting the minimalist contributions of Stereophile, in terms of political contemplation.

Which is the more tenable business proposition?

It should not be tough to figure out. In a magazine that has existed without political commentary through it's entire lifespan..if it adds commentary, it LOSES subscribers, always, every time. It NEVER gains subscriber base. It ALWAYS loses.

Monty
Monty's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Sep 16 2005 - 6:55pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile

It would seem to me that if one of your objectives as a writer was to be considered a trustworthy and objective source for opinion on audio, you might not want to demonstrate that you aren't objective...even if it's related to things other than audio. I think it's just bad business to annoy a substantial portion of your target audience unnecessarily.

On the other hand, it does produce some great letters to the editor. Next to equipment reviews, my favorite part of the magazine is the " cancel my subscription letters. A good rant is an inspiring thing.

piinob
piinob's picture
Offline
Last seen: Never ago
Joined: Aug 14 2007 - 11:31pm
Re: Politics in Stereophile

So true. In the several other Mags I read someone will make some political joke and in short order folks are wounded beyond repair and cancelling right and left. One recently wrote in and threatened to "come down there and kick your butt!" I guess some folks take themselves pretty seriously. I enjoy political humor at the expense of any party or stripe because I don't have much confidence in any of them.

  • X
    Enter your Stereophile.com username.
    Enter the password that accompanies your username.
    Loading