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The New Truthiness

Although this is not a new story, an article in this mornings San Francisco Chronicle pointed out that, as a member of the Senate Intelligence committee, Nancy Pelosi was briefed in 2002 on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah and the methods that were used. When the Washington Post reported the story in 2007, a spokesperson for Pelosi said that while she was given a virtual tour of the techniques used including waterboarding and did not object, she thought that the techniques "could" be used and that she didn't understand that they "would" be used. Others that were briefed along with Speaker Pelosi believe that there was no misunderstanding of what was going on and in an effort to determine that, Michigan Rep. Pete Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the Intelligence Committee, has called on the Director of National Intelligence to release complete CIA briefing documents - including information as to who attended and what was said, so that Americans will know what congressional leaders like Pelosi knew.

I have two questions regarding this story:

1. What will the actual temperature in hell be before Rep. Hoekstra or anyone else for that matter, is given that information.

2. When, as seems likely, the new "Truth Commission" is convened to look into all of this, what are the odds as a percentage, that either Nancy Pelosi or Diane Feinstein will be included in those being investigated?

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Re: The New Truthiness

1. Actually, it will be a cold day in Hell.

2. Well, as you suggested, if they do look into this, which I doubt, I would give 100% chance on both them being fully briefed.

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Quote:
1. Actually, it will be a cold day in Hell.

2. Well, as you suggested, if they do look into this, which I doubt, I would give 100% chance on both them being fully briefed.

And a 0% chance of being investigated themselves

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Re: The New Truthiness

Unfortunately, that is the way it has always worked. They really have to be caught violating High Crimes and Misdemeanors with their hands in the cookie jar to get censored, sacked, or prosecuted for some sort of violation. Two examples, Clinton (D) and Andrew Johnson (D). The latter violating an act of congress that was later deemed unconstitutional. Nevertheless, Johnson was impeached. One of his last acts as president was granting amnesty to Confederates. He was a Northern Democrat and ran with Lincoln who was a Republican as National Union members to avoid The Copperheads. That race, in itself, should have been investigated. I would include Nixon (R) but he resigned. Kennedy (D) would have been investigated. He wasn't actually handling things very well with Cuba. Truman (D) should have been investigated with all those damn communists running amuck in Washington. Hoover (R) should have been investigated for creating a financial meltdown and FDR (D) should have been investigated for a number of really juicy ones like locking up citizens (racial profiling), never getting the economy back on its feet even after nearly 16 years as president, and allowing the attack on Pearl Harbor due to getting the USA into WWII among many other things. Wilson (D) should have been investigated for pretty much the same thing to include creating the Sedition Act just so he could conduct America in WWI without agitators. The list goes on and on.

Due to the secrecy that is inherent in counterinsurgency warfare Bush II will eventually be added to the list. Obama keeps going at the clip he is working he will eventually trip on his own dick and end up in the same boat but without a scratch just like the rest before him.

That leaves poor Clinton. Impeached for basically lying about an extramarital blow job and other kinky sex in the taxpayers' oval office. He set the standard of getting caught, "with his hand in the cookie jar". Remember that Idiot (R) that made a sexual pass to a cop in an airport restroom. That sort of shit. Nothing important like risking the next generation's future or national security like the latest two presidents.

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