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does it need to be broken in for 100 hours? I just got mine, will it read better after 100 hours? Is it "audio grade" paper and ink? It's robust, thick, heavy. Will the pace of the read improve with time? What about eye distortion? What kind of light should i use to read it under? audio grade lighting? What color temp is audio grade lighting?

No, DUP. It's a book. You just read it.

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Will it never end???????????????????

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DUP here are the details.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBIVRwvUeE

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Dup, Dup, Dup. Do you really have to ask? The best way to read that book is from the soft glow of a vacuum tube amplifier. It just won't read the same without tubes for illumination. If you're using fluorescent lighting to read that book then you just don't know how good that book can read.

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Hey Monty...if he isn't a slid state guy I don't know who is! You cannot get enough watts out of most tube amps. If he uses tubes anywhere they have got to be for socks.

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DUP don't need no stinkin' manual.


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"Badges, we don't need no stinking badges! <laughter> Vamonos!"

http://www.gotwavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bs...file=badges.wav

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Cool book, Turns out McIntosh was at WoodStock!!! Wall of sound Grateful Dead, lotsa watts, lotsa speakers, towering column of speakers, driven by McIntosh in racks, Janis Joplin also. No magic wires used for the greatest live music event in history. Look at teh pictures of the racks, on wheels, just som quad boxes with AC line cords, wires all over the GROUND in dirt, and teh Woodstock soundtrack is great. None of the nonsnese brands with magic capacitors and special audio wiring even existed probably in 69'. McIntosh was doing a lot of stuff, besides being stuffed in lawyers and doctors offices. But they never had some really potent stuff like Hafler P500 series. The factory is BIG, and assembled by people making living wages. The book is an inspiration to buy audio from audio people, not from sweat shops, assembled by people that barely have clean water to drink. Yeah, with all teh new chinese sweat brandss in audio appearing, being pushed, avoid them, buy some really high quality U.S. made McIntosh, AVA, and a few others. We don't need no stinkin' offshore brands, just cus' they are cheap, they are cheap for a reason. MAde by people who can't live on teh salarys. The WalMart thang, the high cost of low prices. And it appears McIntosh are not glorfied highly overpriced BS. They make stuff in house, by real people, and real design. Not just some assembler, who gets teh cheapest offshore crap, raisses teh price to the absurd, to impress audiophlakes. And the McIntoish test bench, hmmmm, look like just some standard RCA wires, no Monster this or that, no cyro, fried, and all teh other audio BS. I'm impressed by McIntosh history and they still make it right. D&M is letting them continue in their ways. But I'm sure teh backing of teh larger owners, will make them even better hopefully. McIntosh was ignored for decades by StereoPhile, Absolute sound etc. cool how you can still get parts for some reall y old relics, if that's your need. But new stuff surely has improved. Impressive looking opeartion, cool pictures.

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Maybe I should read it from the lights of the LED rack lites from the Furmans?

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Why does StereoPhile still ignore VanAlstine stuff too.

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Cause they liked distortion and some of the real science was not yet discovered, although the RCA radiotron designers handbook mentions different caps, 50 years ago.

Sorry, but a couple of dozen RCA engineers discuss the differences between capacitors.

You lose again DUP.


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Cool book, Turns out McIntosh was at WoodStock!!! Wall of sound Grateful Dead, lotsa watts, lotsa speakers, towering column of speakers, driven by McIntosh in racks, Janis Joplin also. No magic wires used for the greatest live music event in history. Look at teh pictures of the racks, on wheels, just som quad boxes with AC line cords, wires all over the GROUND in dirt, and teh Woodstock soundtrack is great. None of the nonsnese brands with magic capacitors and special audio wiring even existed probably in 69'. McIntosh was doing a lot of stuff, besides being stuffed in lawyers and doctors offices. But they never had some really potent stuff like Hafler P500 series. The factory is BIG, and assembled by people making living wages. The book is an inspiration to buy audio from audio people, not from sweat shops, assembled by people that barely have clean water to drink. Yeah, with all teh new chinese sweat brandss in audio appearing, being pushed, avoid them, buy some really high quality U.S. made McIntosh, AVA, and a few others. We don't need no stinkin' offshore brands, just cus' they are cheap, they are cheap for a reason. MAde by people who can't live on teh salarys. The WalMart thang, the high cost of low prices. And it appears McIntosh are not glorfied highly overpriced BS. They make stuff in house, by real people, and real design. Not just some assembler, who gets teh cheapest offshore crap, raisses teh price to the absurd, to impress audiophlakes. And the McIntoish test bench, hmmmm, look like just some standard RCA wires, no Monster this or that, no cyro, fried, and all teh other audio BS. I'm impressed by McIntosh history and they still make it right. D&M is letting them continue in their ways. But I'm sure teh backing of teh larger owners, will make them even better hopefully. McIntosh was ignored for decades by StereoPhile, Absolute sound etc. cool how you can still get parts for some reall y old relics, if that's your need. But new stuff surely has improved. Impressive looking opeartion, cool pictures.

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turns out McIntosh was out tehre with super low distortion, nuetral amps, thye used to run the in store clinics to prove how much better teh McIntosh stuff was compared to other brands WoodStock had dozens and dozens of amps at WoodStock, also they where a local supplier. The column of speakers driven by teh McIntosh amps, dozens and dozens of cabinets, pretty cool. Mud, mud and more mud. Didn't need no magic wires, just hard use robust stuff with real world parameters. RCA is hardly a good reference, it is out of business, so much for their superior thinking, GE bought it back, sold off CE to the French, it's just a name like KLH, AR, poof all gone...they even stole the electronic tv idea from Filo Farnsworth. Sarnoff was more a ruthless business dude than a scientist. RCA is gone, Siemens, Philips, GE still making and seting standards, give me another reference for who discovered how the color of wire or the PVC/PTFE sounds different. I was never a big McIntosh fan, but after reading some of teh stuff they stood for and did, pretty impressive. I seen a friends in wall McIntosh system early on, it got me going, I could only go dynaco, i was a kid. McIntosh doesn't make a big enough amp for me. AVA more watts, much less just as reliable, sonicly, might even be better, faster etc. AVA always stomps others, in VALUE bang for teh buck sonic bliss for less. McIntosh look cool that's for sure.

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Yes, woodstock was rock which meant lots of distortion, so who cares about distortion. Are you going to claim they cared about low distortion in their music??

And RCA, PHDs, CBS audio and video engineers etc. All don't know as much as the Great DUP.


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turns out McIntosh was out tehre with super low distortion, nuetral amps, thye used to run the in store clinics to prove how much better teh McIntosh stuff was compared to other brands WoodStock had dozens and dozens of amps at WoodStock, also they where a local supplier. The column of speakers driven by teh McIntosh amps, dozens and dozens of cabinets, pretty cool. Mud, mud and more mud. Didn't need no magic wires, just hard use robust stuff with real world parameters. RCA is hardly a good reference, it is out of business, so much for their superior thinking, GE bought it back, sold off CE to the French, it's just a name like KLH, AR, poof all gone...they even stole the electronic tv idea from Filo Farnsworth. Sarnoff was more a ruthless business dude than a scientist. RCA is gone, Siemens, Philips, GE still making and seting standards, give me another reference for who discovered how the color of wire or the PVC/PTFE sounds different. I was never a big McIntosh fan, but after reading some of teh stuff they stood for and did, pretty impressive. I seen a friends in wall McIntosh system early on, it got me going, I could only go dynaco, i was a kid. McIntosh doesn't make a big enough amp for me. AVA more watts, much less just as reliable, sonicly, might even be better, faster etc. AVA always stomps others, in VALUE bang for teh buck sonic bliss for less. McIntosh look cool that's for sure.

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Woodstock was a mess. So, most of the people knew where to plug the wires into. Big deal. DUP, you should drive out into the Permian Basin of New Mexico and take a look on some of the oil rigs. You would love the miles and miles of cables laying around in the mud. While Woodstock was unfolding there were base camps in Vietnam with miles and miles of cables laying around in the mud. And all those companies were the manufacturers of the same. Again, big deal. I still don't know what you are trying to convey upon us. That McIntosh put a man on the moon?

Woodstock trivia question:

Who announced, "It's a new dawn!" at Woodstock?

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Bill Hanley, father of live event sound. http://www.3rdearmusic.com/hyarchive/hywhere/hywhere12.html

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No, Werner Von Braun did. Frank McIntosh just made audio stuff. The point? Like the other Frank.....Van Alstine. Philips did shave in space if it matters. Phili shavers in space. Under Norelco name.McIntosh allowed teh greatest live music event to happen, before WoodStock, there was never such an event of 300,000 people listening to music. Love and Peace. And teh recordings are still with us to enjoy. bill Hanley made it happen. Got new respect for McIntosh, wonder if they loaned out or got a stpend or something for all teh stuff they supplied, gotta read more, book is great!! cool pictures, see, if something is good, I'll let ya know. If it's junk I'll let you know. Maybe I have high standards, does that bother some people.? Tough.

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Well, if you are soooooooo into the recording than you should have known the answer to the trivia question.

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Answer: The lead singer of Jefferson Airplane.

And no, I am not one of the 57 million that claims that they were there.

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Let Google help you!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="It%27s+a+new+dawn"++Woodstock&btnG=Google+Search

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That's cheating!

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Pretty soon we will all be wearing heads up displays so I would get used to it.

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Answer: The lead singer of Jefferson Airplane.

And no, I am not one of the 57 million that claims that they were there.

Yeah, we'll give ya that one. But I'm not sure Grace was the lead singer. I mean she didn't sing every song, ya know.

BTW, my favorite part from the movie Woodstock is at the end with all those people picking up all that trash. My other favorite part is of the outhouse cleaning man. Oh, and Ted Nugent was there carrying a sidearm, of course. Some flower girl asked why he was carrying a gun. He replied, "Hey! Things a guy needs!". But that wasn't in the movie.

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Got new respect for McIntosh, wonder if they loaned out or got a stpend or something for all teh stuff they supplied, gotta read more, book is great!! cool pictures, see, if something is good, I'll let ya know. If it's junk I'll let you know. Maybe I have high standards, does that bother some people.? Tough.

It's really great to hear you like the book so much, DUP. The fact that you've even gained new respect for McIntosh is especially important, I think. I share your opinion that it's a lovely book, filled with interesting information.

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