I suspect this is the result of being so dug in that it eventually leads to a mind set of "if you are not with us you are against us."
Terrible, isn't it? I'm not sure where you came from, but I am sure that you came in the middle of an ideological war with hostile agents from a cult of anti-audio zealots who all marched in here recently from a place called "Hydrogen Audio". So if you're getting more flack than you might be expecting in a subjective audio discussion forum ("again with the labels!"), this would be why. Although you may have stolen most of their lines, you're not nearly as annoying as the Hydrogen crew. In fact I kinda like this "devil's advocate" play of yours (and FWIW, some of your responses here to others were excellent!). So if any of our men gives you too much flack (or demands that you get off the fence and take a clear stand or risk getting hit by "friendly fire"), you tell me and I'll fix 'em good for ya.
I challenge you to find one instance of me actually not liking the reported perceptions of another and then screaming bias effects.
Ummm.... me? Is "me" a good example? You might not be "screaming", ok, but after me reporting my perceptions, you're insisting they are colored by bias effects. Not merely "suggesting" this is possible mind you, but "insisting". I try to tell you that I progress in my research all the time, and although this is what matters to me, it doesn't seem to matter to you at all, since apparently nothing overrules your favoured "bias theory" regarding my perceptions.
MJF: What if I told you there is no way to guarantee complete freedom from bias ? Not much to discuss thereafter, is there?
Actually there is a great deal to discuss *thereafter* but so long as you cling to the misinformed belief that you can will away your biases, so long as you can't get past your need for a belief in objective certitude of your perceptions we will never get to "thereafter"
I know you're never going to understand this (as I do), but I have to speak for myself and say I really don't have a "need" for "a belief in objective certitude of my perceptions". If I have any "need", it's simply a need to see if I can improve my sound, and how that can be done. 99% of the time I am attempting to do this, I simply don't think about "perceptions" and "needs" and "objectivity/subjectivity" and all those ideological theories you're so wrapped up in. As you talk about it so much, I really see you as having these "needs" about how one must approach listening when attempting to improve their sound. Which is why I told you that if you wish to do audio experimentation in this frame of mind, you should do that. But understand this is your "obsession", to use a term. It does not imply one "needs" that particular belief to progress. Since 95% of audio engineers/researchers do not adhere to your belief system and audio seems to have progressed pretty well without it, I think that does a pretty good job of proving that your concern about biases is unnecessary.
I think it's a good thing for you there isn't a "thereafter". Because it there was, you would have to explain how I could continue to do what I do, as I do it, while eliminating bias. There is no practical, let alone possible way to do this, hence these "DBT/bias effect" arguments are always just academic - as I've mentioned before.