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The figures show the U.S. spending 600 billion in 2008 and Europe spending 320 billion. We are waging war in 2 countries. What are they doing for their 320 bil? Are they involved in that many peace actions?

At least we're getting more bang for our buck .

p.s. The above statement in no way implies support of war or killing people.

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Gee, we're spending money during a time of armed conflict. Go figure. We could be giving that money to American corporations that are no longer solvent. Then the corporations could file bankruptcy and pay it back ten cents on the dollar. Reminds me of Milo Minderbinder buying all the Egyptian cotton only to have to unload it on the government, "since the business of government is business". Another day another blowjob.

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These figures seem very low.

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How much do you think the Btitish have spent in Iraq ? virtually their entire military had supported the US, this has severely crippled the UK economy.

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Aw, poor Britain had to go fight and it crippled the British economy. Britain's contribution to Iraq didn't cripple your economy. You lazy socialist assholes crippled your own economy. Feed me! Feed me! Feed me!

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How much do you think the Btitish have spent in Iraq ? virtually their entire military had supported the US, this has severely crippled the UK economy.

We pulled their fat out of the fire when "Adolf" was about to sink the island. Then we rebuilt them and the rest of Europe. To top it off, we didn't ask for anything in return. If you ask me, most Western European countries are full of a bunch of ungrateful SOB's. The French are so damn ungrateful they're beneath contempt. We should have demanded their most attractive women for repayment. Although they would have had to shower and shave their underarms before being sent here.
They gave up WWII almost without a fight so Paris wouldn't get bombed. The Brit's will at least stand up for what's right.
Great Britain has made a terrible mistake by allowing Islamic fundamentalists to establish such a major presence. It's going to come back and bite them in the ass. Some might say the biting has already begun.

Wipe out intolerance. Get rid of Islam. I'm not intolerant. I just can't tolerate Muslims.

With no more Muslims we could find a new group to hate.
How about the French for a start? Most of them smell bad anyway. Bad BO should be sufficient reason for eradication.

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How much do you think the Btitish have spent in Iraq ? virtually their entire military had supported the US, this has severely crippled the UK economy.

We pulled their fat out of the fire when "Adolf" was about to sink the island. Then we rebuilt them and the rest of Europe. To top it off, we didn't ask for anything in return. If you ask me, most Western European countries are full of a bunch of ungrateful SOB's. The French are so damn ungrateful they're beneath contempt. We should have demanded their most attractive women for repayment. Although they would have had to shower and shave their underarms before being sent here.
They gave up WWII almost without a fight so Paris wouldn't get bombed. The Brit's will at least stand up for what's right.
Great Britain has made a terrible mistake by allowing Islamic fundamentalists to establish such a major presence. It's going to come back and bite them in the ass. Some might say the biting has already begun.

Wipe out intolerance. Get rid of Islam. I'm not intolerant. I just can't tolerate Muslims.

With no more Muslims we could find a new group to hate.
How about the French for a start? Most of them smell bad anyway. Bad BO should be sufficient reason for eradication.

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Their 'entire military' is itty bitty...just a note.

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OK

I love the US and im very happy living here, but you guys can kiss my Welsh ass when it come's to the military.

The US military could not hit the endzone from the 1 yard line with a boat load of missiles. The one and only reason the US militay succeeds is by sheer volume.

The British are the elite fighting forces of the world, ask any real military man and they will tell you the SAS are the baddest motherfuckers in the world. The average US ranger/delta force/green beret or whatever will not land anywhere unless there is a fucking burger king open.

The simple reason that the UK turned WW II was that we captured enigma ( not Bon fucking Jovi ! !! ) Winston Churchill is without doubt the greatest leader in the past 100 years nobody else is even close, yes he was an alcoholic lunatic but that's exactly what was needed to deal with Hitler and company. If the US hadnt been so fucking liberal and stopped Chruchill for pushing the Russians back at the end of the war we never would have seen the rise of communism. So just remember it was the US's own miltary liberalism that created commies, if left to Churchill he would have kicked their ass.

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The thing that the average geographically/politically ignorant American does not understand is that 99.999 % of Musilims are peace loving normal people. The reason for the minority hating America is purely due to America's insistance of protecting Israel at all costs.

If America just stopped supporting Israel the the Muslims would stop hating.

Dont forget that in the 70's & 80's the majority of the IRA's money for bombs came from US donations, most American's thought it was a cute freedom fight. It was only when terroism began to affect US people at home that they started to realise how misguided they were.

What the world needs is for the US to pull out of everywhere it doesnt belong and just look after itself, that way if something has a problem directly with the US we can just blow the motherfuckers up and be done with. Stop all this interfering into shit we dont belong in.

Alan

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99.999% of Muslims are peace loving motherfuckers? That means us white folk are 10,189.75% peace loving motherfuckers. Get the fuck out of the bar before somebody kicks your dumb "oversexed" taffy ass. As for Americans keeping their asses out of where we don't belong? Fine, we will stop contributing to the World Food Bank. America provides 99.999% of the food. We will just starve 99.999% of the Muslims to death so we can pick out the bad guys and kill them too. Do the math. You made it up.

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The thing that the average geographically/politically ignorant American does not understand is that 99.999 % of Musilims are peace loving normal people. The reason for the minority hating America is purely due to America's insistance of protecting Israel at all costs.

If America just stopped supporting Israel the the Muslims would stop hating.

Dont forget that in the 70's & 80's the majority of the IRA's money for bombs came from US donations, most American's thought it was a cute freedom fight. It was only when terroism began to affect US people at home that they started to realise how misguided they were.

What the world needs is for the US to pull out of everywhere it doesnt belong and just look after itself, that way if something has a problem directly with the US we can just blow the motherfuckers up and be done with. Stop all this interfering into shit we dont belong in.

Alan


You have it wrong, the aim of Islam is an Islamic world. This is in the Koran and is part and parcel of being a Muslim. 99.9% of Muslims want an Islamic world although they won't admit it to "Infidels".
I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are only two kinds of Muslims.
Radicals who want to kill all non Muslims
Moderates who monetarily support radicals.

To think that if the US stopped supporting Israel the Muslims would stop hating is frankly a stupid and myopic viewpoint. You seem to overlook the fact that the aim of Islam is an Islamic world. The destruction of Israel is just the first step in their plan for world domination. Check your history and you will find that the Muslims allied themselves with the Nazi's in order to get rid of the Jews. A Muslim saying you should remember is "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
If they can ever overcome the Israeli's the rest of the western world is next in their sites.

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99.999% of Muslims are peace loving motherfuckers? That means us white folk are 10,189.75% peace loving motherfuckers. Get the fuck out of the bar before somebody kicks your dumb "oversexed" taffy ass. As for Americans keeping their asses out of where we don't belong? Fine, we will stop contributing to the World Food Bank. America provides 99.999% of the food. We will just starve 99.999% of the Muslims to death so we can pick out the bad guys and kill them too. Do the math. You made it up.

Even though I'm not "white" I'm with you on this. I say lets starve all of the Muslims. That way we won't have to pick out the bad guys to kill. They'll already be dead!

Cut off any foreign aid to Islamic countries. Nuke Pakistan and Iran. If any of the other Muslim countries complain too loudly, nuke them too.
I say this not out of hate, but out of love. Love for freedom, both religious and personal. Love for myself, my friends, neighbors and the Western life style.

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It's so refreshing to see people allied on my side of the issue on an internet forum for once. If you didn't know yet, I'm a jew and so for me it's personal.
P.S. you forgot about the great american love for making things end up like this:

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Yet another thread turned into ignorant and childish banter.

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You'll have to excuse Alexo. He lives in NYC. Out of touch with the real world. Oh, he knows where Manhattan is but for some reason the skyline looks a little different these days. Oh, well. If the United States would only let NYC be an Islamic free fire zone the rest of America wouldn't make such a big deal each time NYC gets attacked and innocent people get killed. We should have an amendment to our constitution. An attack on NYC is not an attack on America.

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berezina:
If there was a great American love for nuclear explosions we would have continued to drop them on Japan after the first two. They would also have been used during the Korean war and saved a lot of American lives.
The US has traditionally used only the minimum force necessary to accomplish its goals. Whether you agree with those goals is another question.

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You'll have to excuse Alexo. He lives in NYC. Out of touch with the real world. Oh, he knows where Manhattan is but for some reason the skyline looks a little different these days. Oh, well. If the United States would only let NYC be an Islamic free fire zone the rest of America wouldn't make such a big deal each time NYC gets attacked and innocent people get killed. We should have an amendment to our constitution. An attack on NYC is not an attack on America.

I don't live in NYC anymore. In fact, I don't live in the States anymore. However, the figures were discussing defense spending. If you do the math, you will notice that the US spends more than Europe, Asia and Oceania COMBINED. That's a lot of spending to fight two wars in countries that are barely out of stone age.

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um...guys? i guess there isnt room for sarcasm on this board if a giant freaking nuke that takes up half the screen isnt ironic enough for yalls

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Oh, that's right. You're an ex-patriot. I almost forgot. I don't care how much America spends on killing Muslims.

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um...guys? i guess there isnt room for sarcasm on this board if a giant freaking nuke that takes up half the screen isnt ironic enough for yalls

It was the PS attached to your picture. That wasn't sarcasm. That was a dig at the US. As a veteran I take umbrage at that sort of thing. I've put my life on the line to defend all your freedoms. Consequently I take that sort of thing seriously.
I thought the picture was very pretty!
BTW: That looks like one of the H-Bomb tests on Bikini Atoll.

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Oh, that's right. You're an ex-patriot. I almost forgot. I don't care how much America spends on killing Muslims.

I am just waiting for the Americans to go after the Italians in Texas. What are the Italians doing in Texas anyway? They must be up to no good. Probably going to sabotage something or extort money from hard working American businesses. Everyone knows that Italians are only allowed in New York, New Jersey and Chicago. I think it's time we spent some of our defense budget dollars to go after the REAL enemy.

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What are the Italians doing in Texas anyway? They must be up to no good.

Even Texans need a good red sauce every once in a while. It can't always be BBQ and Lone Star.

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It's called gravy. Any respectable Italian-Texan knows that. I should know.

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OK

I love the US and im very happy living here, but you guys can kiss my Welsh ass when it come's to the military.

The US military could not hit the endzone from the 1 yard line with a boat load of missiles. The one and only reason the US militay succeeds is by sheer volume.

The British are the elite fighting forces of the world, ask any real military man and they will tell you the SAS are the baddest motherfuckers in the world. The average US ranger/delta force/green beret or whatever will not land anywhere unless there is a fucking burger king open.

The simple reason that the UK turned WW II was that we captured enigma ( not Bon fucking Jovi ! !! ) Winston Churchill is without doubt the greatest leader in the past 100 years nobody else is even close, yes he was an alcoholic lunatic but that's exactly what was needed to deal with Hitler and company. If the US hadnt been so fucking liberal and stopped Chruchill for pushing the Russians back at the end of the war we never would have seen the rise of communism. So just remember it was the US's own miltary liberalism that created commies, if left to Churchill he would have kicked their ass.

Alan

Alan, that is a crazy sentiment. I know many SF Operators both US and British, and I feel comfortable asserting(as a former Airborne Infantryman) that ANY Special Forces operator is a bad-ass. I am quite certain that my friends from SAS and my Special Ops buddies would agree. SFOD-Delta , those guys kick ass too.

if you feel otherwise, I welcome you to try out Ranger School, SFAS and Subsequent Q-Course, SEAR(i've done that one), Seal training... Airborne school(done that one too)..hell, boot camp!

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I'm still waiting for the British to let us know how to lose a counter-insurgency war. "Butchered to make a Dutchman's Holiday."


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In prison cell I sadly sit,
A damned crest-fallen chappie!
And own to you I feel a bit-
A little bit - unhappy!

It really ain't the place nor time
To reel off rhyming diction -
But yet we'll write a final rhyme
Whilst waiting cru-ci-fixion!

No matter what "end" they decide -
Quick-lime or "b'iling ile," sir?
We'll do our best when crucified
To finish off in style, sir!

But we bequeath a parting tip
For sound advice of such men,
Who come across in transport ship
To polish off the Dutchmen!

If you encounter any Boers
You really must not loot 'em!
And if you wish to leave these shores,
For pity's sake, DON'T SHOOT 'EM!!

And if you'd earn a D.S.O.,
Why every British sinner
Should know the proper way to go
Is: "ASK THE BOER TO DINNER!"

Let's toss a bumper down our throat, -
Before we pass to Heaven,
And toast: "The trim-set petticoat
We leave behind in Devon."

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NC

I apologise to you, all military have my respect. The difference is that you would have not made the stupid dumbass comments thet JimV and Joe made, my reply was an attack at those two muppets not real military people who never would have attacked the British military who are respected worldwide by people who understand. The British have an equally proud military history and while i do indeed live in the US now I cant let those morons get away with their badmouthing

Alan

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guys, i didn't mean to offend anyone. I was poking fun at the stereotype that all americans like to blow things up. Although i must admit, that picture is pretty awesome

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I apologise to you, all military have my respect. The difference is that you would have not made the stupid dumbass comments thet JimV and Joe made, my reply was an attack at those two muppets not real military people who never would have attacked the British military who are respected worldwide by people who understand. The British have an equally proud military history and while i do indeed live in the US now I cant let those morons get away with their badmouthing

Alan

And just what "dumbass" comment have I made? I was a military brat and grew up on military bases. The military tradition runs deep in me and my family. I am also a veteran who volunteered for military service in 1966.
I was an air sea rescue medic working out of Cam Rhan Bay in 1968. That basically means I was shot at and wasn't allowed to carry a weapon to return fire.
I've been to Jump School and Pensacola. I've still got the first pair of Jump Wings I was awarded. I have never in life verbally attacked any British military person. As a matter of fact I've always though very highly of "Tommys".
As for other American military personnel, several of my closest friends were SEALS. My best friend was in the 101st Airborne. I could walk down any alley or street with any one of them and know they had my back as I would have theirs. I don't think I could say the same for you.

Where the hell were you and what have you done other than act like a big p**sy?

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guys, i didn't mean to offend anyone. I was poking fun at the stereotype that all americans like to blow things up. Although i must admit, that picture is pretty awesome

I too like blowing things up, in computer games. Flight sims are high on my list. I regularly fly against an older friend who was a Tuskegee Airman. He shoots me down most of the time. That dude can fly!

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