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How loud do you listen?

After hearing from Jeff how loud DUP plays his system I had a thought. I dug out my trusty Rat Shack meter and took some readings at random times yesterday while I was playing music. I found that most of the levels were in the high 80's(87 or so)db wise. There were a very few selections that I did play louder with peaks around 95-96 db. How loud do the rest of you listen? I used C weighting with slow response.

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I've hit 106dB or so at times, usually continuous around 98-100dB..No breakup, no distortion, makes them fans on the 4 amps dump some real wasted energy into the room, lotsa HEAT!!. Even with very efficient WHISPERS, they are 4OHMS, they need CURRENT!!!Matt Oree live has hit 116 dB peaks with continuous around 106 I used my same meter...I measured Matt at a now closed great place called CrossRoads in Asbury Pk, won the street from Stone Pony and The Saint, there is also the Wonder Bar which has been all redone, real good, Places are old, but redone...There are numerous other places being renovated too, and in other towns, CRANK IT!!! He was smokin' last nite....Opened for The Outlasws....Matt always puts on a great live show, incredible band, i know everyone is, but Matt is exceptional, won the Guitarmageddon www.guitarcenter.com King of the Blues He will be playing in Austin TX...SRV territory!!!

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Average about 95dB for serious listening.

I hooked up this strange phono preamp and now I can actually turn up the volume playing vinyl loud enough to cause reverberation on the turntable. Like about 110dB. Sort of like putting a guitar to close to an amp. A howling noise. 100dB is about as high as I can get without causing problems on the turntable.

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I've hit 106dB or so at times, usually continuous around 98-100dB..No breakup, no distortion, makes them fans on the 4 amps dump some real wasted energy into the room, lotsa HEAT!!. Even with very efficient WHISPERS, they are 4OHMS, they need CURRENT!!!Matt Oree live has hit 116 dB peaks with continuous around 106 I used my same meter...I measured Matt at a now closed great place called CrossRoads in Asbury Pk, won the street from Stone Pony and The Saint, there is also the Wonder Bar which has been all redone, real good, Places are old, but redone...There are numerous other places being renovated too, and in other towns, CRANK IT!!! He was smokin' last nite....Opened for The Outlasws....Matt always puts on a great live show, incredible band, i know everyone is, but Matt is exceptional, won the Guitarmageddon www.guitarcenter.com King of the Blues He will be playing in Austin TX...SRV territory!!!

Are you talking about The Outlaws. Best show I have ever seen was well over 25 years ago. It was in this order, Foghat, The Johnny Van Zandt Band, and The Outlaws. I had ringing ears the next day. Well, maybe the second best show. I went to an outdoor Santana show about five years ago. But that is an entire different class. I'll never forget The Outlaws. Christ, how old they now? But to stay on topic the loudest band I have seen was Cheap Trick. About 1984. I had tinnitus for a couple of days after that show. And it was an outdoor concert. Someone told me once that Grand Funk Railroad could make your ears bleed. I never got the chance to see them play.

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Matt Oree was Smokin'. I ALWAYS have ear plugs for any live event. Tifference at home, I'm in control, I can turn it down when I want to, at a live event going on for some hours, I have no control, except to leave, BUT, don't wanna do that, especially when something good going on. One of teh best live soudn so far has been House of Blues Chicago!!! Very well balanced, no boom, no shrill, not overly loud, but i was still wearing plugs. Some places have no detail, teh boom makes it all a blur, some places get it much better....there is a difference, and it's not teh wiring, it's teh setting, the speakers etc. I wanna see a live place with some SLS RIBBONS...not the standard horns that can get shrill real fast. RIBBONS from SLS, capable of 130dB !!! absorbing 800Watts or more. Some of teh better sounds, with more detail have not miked the drums or guitar amps, just get what comes off of them in a smaller place usually has the best detail and balance, many PA systems can do more damage to the details than merely reinforce it. Using fancy tube amps, to get the nice guitar sounds, then ya mike it thorugh some lousy horns, kinda seems kinda silly. But larger places need it, smaller ones don't.

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The question is not about how loud Matt Oree(whoever he is)plays in a club. Do you get paid for advertising for Mat Oree, Legacy Audio or AVA?

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The majority of the time I listen at around 80db or less and I'm seriously considering going the flea watt, triode route. The only problem is that I live in Texas and my room is relatively small. I don't need any extra space heaters during the summer.

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Hi Monty
I have the same problem.I have considered many going tubes but the darn heat.....

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Hi, JoeE -- I can only guess, since I don't have a meter. I try to simulate what I hear in the concert hall...emphasis on simulate. I know I don't approach the 105+ db levels you actually get from orchestral peaks, but I want to feel the dynamics and the contrasts. I have found, in the past, that the more sensitive the speakers, the less loudness you need, because the contrasts are there at lower volume levels. I would have to guess the mid-90 db levels on the loudest passages. I notice at the concert hall that the depth of the stage, moreso than the width, spreads the instruments out in space in such a way that the loudest climaxes don't seem irritatingly loud. I have never had my ears hurt at a live (acoustic) concert, but have experienced pain many times in showrooms and other folks' listening rooms. After having made a short story long, I have to conclude that concert hall db's are much, much different than listening room db's, no matter what the little numbers on the meters say. 90 measured db's in your listening room may well simulate much louder concert hall db's without their measuring the same.

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I just popped in Tuatara's Trading with the Enemy. On the opening of the 1st track, the average levels were 68-72 with peaks around 78. If I cranked it a bit more, low 80s. This setting is slightly too loud for my tastes. I kind of wish I could get the setting in between the two... maybe I could if I got up and set the volume by hand as opposed to using the remote.

I used Average C weighting.

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"whoever he is"?..come on now... www.mattoree.com King of the Blues Guitarmegeddon WINNER!!! www.guitarcenter.com Rember his name, you'll hear a lot more of it..I promise. SRV? Whoever the heck he is? Kenny Wayne Sheppered, whoever he is? Jimmie D Lane whjoever he is? Albert King whoever he is....all in the same genre. You must expand your blues world of excellence...at a realistic level of course. Not paid for anything, nope...which is why I ask....Can I borrow $10? I'll gladly pay you on Monday.

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For really pure clean sound from a solid-state amp, the new PS Audio power amps are real gems, and they run VERY cool.
Check the recent reviews on the GCA and GCC series (the PS Audio website has links to recent independent reviews). I think they are going to be classics.

Also, a lot of the so-called "solid-state" sound is really not due to solid-state circuitry but the fair-to-poor INPUT COUPLING CAPACITORS in most solid-state amplifiers. I put DYNAMICAPS in the input coupling stage of my old Audire Forte amp, and the sound is so pure that it could pass for one of the finest tube amps (if it didn't have such fantastic bass, that is...). You might consider changing the input caps of your current amp to DYNAMICAPS; major improvement WILL take place....

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Sounds like you need a preamp with a more precise volume control. The later-model Audio Research preamps have a 102-step volume control that gets as fine as you want (by some strange coincidence, I just happen to have a nearly new LS16 Mark 2 I can let you have very reasonable...lol).

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Hi Clifton,
I think you have a good point. The next time I'm at the Kimmel Center I'll have my meter and take some readings. It should be in the next couple of days.

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The truth is I had never heard of Matt Oree until you became his agent here. About those other guys, well I met SRV one night when he played the Bijou here in Phila. Stevie was a very nice guy. He is missed. KWS, JDL and Albert King are represented in my music collection. When I was playing music for a living and played a blues set I brought an armchair out, sat down and propped my feet up while playing. Although I like blues oriented music, the blues and nothing but the blues is kinda boring to me. For loans please contact my soliciters Azmodious and Baelzebub. You may not like their terms.

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How loud depends on three things: the type of music, my state of being (alone, with a buddy, with several buddies, with a love interest, etc..), and my mood. Average SPL - 90 dB. Punk, Metal - 100 dB. Vocals - 85-95 dB. Classical depends upon type, orchestral, chamber, etc... Party time - 105 or so...

It's always good, and always fun!

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We got a loudspeaker. When we go
into battle, we play music very loud.

It kind of...

...calms us down.

-Oddball, Kelly's Heroes

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