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Greece is having a tough spring.

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33% of Greeks earning wages derive their income from the government.

(Imagine if we looked at that and included percentage of Greeks 'dependent' on government jobs....spouse of workers, etc.)

Retirement age is 55 to 58 in the government sector with full government pension.

The state pension also covers regular retirees from the private sector.

Female radio operators and hairdressers can retire at 50 because their work is classified as 'hazardous.' There is a list of 600 different hazardous jobs that lower the retirement age to 50.

Greece's debt to GDP ratio is nearly 120%, and its obligation (social programs) to GDP is estimated at nearly 900%.

900% is alot.

Greece has had to raise its bond return interest rate to 100% higher than the Euro Zone average in order to sell bonds.

Greeks work shorter hours and spend less time in the educational system than Germans.

Greece wants German bailout money.

Germany says, "Go to the IMF."

Greece says, "You insult me! Give me the money!"

The Greek government tried to call for austerity measures...but greater than 50% of the country is dependent on the government payroll, so austerity would mean actual austerity, not American style austerity, and they are calling for general strikes to block austerity measures.

Keep in mind that austerity measures for Greece may include terrible things like 40 hour work weeks...

(Greece's largest labor union, the GSEE, has demanded a 35-hour work week, with workers maintaining the same wages and benefits of a 40-hour work week.)

Greeks get 37 paid holiday days off work each year.

Gonna be a hot summer in Greece.

My main wonderment, if you look at how little Europeans have to work in general, is how the Euro survives at all.

Check those days off!

You think the Euro is a long term survivor?

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

And, with the possible exceptions of the beauty of the country and the unique antiquities, this country, examined by the same metrics in your factoid, is looking more like current day Greece all the time. Does anyone know how to say Hope and Change in Greek?

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

I have nothing to add..other than.. I LOVE GREECE. Ive been there several times. My first Daughter was concieved there in Delphi(or Mykonos or Glyfada?). One day when I am rich, I will have a house there. (and Portugal..also amazing)

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.


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And, with the possible exceptions of the beauty of the country and the unique antiquities, this country, examined by the same metrics in your factoid, is looking more like current day Greece all the time. Does anyone know how to say Hope and Change in Greek?

Starting to look more like Dixie-land states, really.

Have you seen the drag they are on the nation?

The real loser of the War Between the States was the North.

Man, if only we could undo that outcome.

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

What is it that attracts you to third world countries full of lazy socialists ?

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What is it that attracts you to third world countries full of lazy socialists ?

The Spartans with their gay little armor outfits.

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

Don't get snippy now, Mr. Hip Las Vegas. Just because your "cool,historic President" is doing all he can to kill the economy in your town, doesn't justify unseemly behavior on your part. You know I'm right, and Las Vegas will survive - at least for a while - thanks to all those ugly "greedy" Americans he derides so consistently during his trips abroad. OK, so now he's busy pissing off the Israelis and the Chinese . You can do without them, they probably didn't spend that much anyway.

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

I can see you and NC playing Gladiators together.

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I can see you and NC playing Gladiators together.

Because only Spartan women give birth to real men.

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What is it that attracts you to third world countries full of lazy socialists ?

I am, and look like a Greek God, so I visit to talk to my people.

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Don't get snippy now, Mr. Hip Las Vegas.

"Mr. Hip Las Vegas?!! Really? Wayne Newton!!!

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Re: Greece is having a tough spring.

I know that you and Buddha are good friends and stellar examples of what makes Las Vegas a success, but who is this Newton guy?

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I know that you and Buddha are good friends and stellar examples of what makes Las Vegas a success, but who is this Newton guy?

I think he's the only guy in Vegas wearing a codpiece.

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