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First vinyl set-up recommendations

Hi everyone.

I'm hoping some of you can help me out with choosing my first record player set-up. Basically I need everything.

I'm in the UK where there doesn't seem to be as much choice of record players (and I don't want to go 2nd hand) so I've decided to go with the Pro-ject Debut III SE. I think this is a UK only table (might be wrong) but it's basically the Pro-ject Debut III with an upgraded cartridge (OM10) and I think some other upgrades to the quality of the build. It's currently £225 ($364 US).

For an amp I have a shortlist of (bold is what I'm drawn to):

Marantz PM5004 - £155
Cambridge Audio AM10 - £170
Marantz PM6004 - £250

And for speakers I have quite a long list of (bold is what I'm drawn to):

Tannoy Mercury V1 - £95
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 - £95
Q Acoustics 2010i - £112
Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 - £130
Cambridge Audio S30 - £130
Q Acoustics 2020i - £149
Zali Zensor 1 - £180
Monitor Audio BX2 - £225
Boston Acoustics A26 - £230
Wharfedale 121 - £230

I'm not really sure what would be a suitable match for the turntable and whether the PM6004 is worth the extra £100, whether the Wharfedale 9.1s would sound great or whether I'd need to be spending double that (or more) on speakers. Do I spend more on speakers or amp, or roughly the same on both?

Room is about 11ft x 18ft but we will be about 9 or 10ft from the speakers when sitting. I play mostly punk and metal if that matters and I don't play my music too loud because I have both upstairs and downstairs neighbours.

I won't be playing any CDs or radio though it'd be cool if I could hook my laptop up to it. It'd also be cool if I could hook my TV up too cos I'm currently just using the tv's built-in speakers and they're not brilliant.

I'll probably be placing the speakers on an old pair of Atacama stands I got from a friend, on either side of the tv where there will be a good amount of space around them. In the main I've read it's good to have space around your speakers but then I read a review (I think it was of the wharfedale 121s) that said their best if they're against a wall so I'm a bit confused about placement now and whether some speakers are best placed different ways. I can't find the review now.

I'm wanting to go as cheap as possible while still getting a quality budget kit.

Any help/advice/guidance would be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot.

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have you read the speaker reviews on stereophile.com
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If at all possible listen to the speakers on your short list.

The turntable you have selected is certainly competent. You can make some upgrades in the future that will have a positive impact; Ortofon OM20, OM30 or OM40 styli, Pro-Ject Acryl-It platter, and a Pro-Ject Speed Box.

I don't know if you can get the Music Hall A15.2 integrated amp in the UK or not, but it should get serious consideration. You would be able to also connect your laptop and TV to it.

As far a speaker placement goes, it is often a function of the speaker design as to best placement. Follow the manufacturer's recommendations and then experiment.

Good Luck and enjoy!

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I think the speakers on your list are fairly good, but some of them are so small they will not give you ANY bass at all, and that is a mistake.

The M.A. BX2 is probably the best IMO, and the Boston A26 is also fairly good. If you wanted to go with Wharfdale, the 10.2 would be the best.

The Marantz PM6004 is the amplifier I would choose (from that list), although the Music Hall A15.2 is much better IMO if it is in your price range in the UK.

All rear-ported speakers need to be placed at least 16 inches from the rear wall or they will have an unpleasant "boominess" to their sound.

If you want to place them closer than that to the wall you need some front-ported speakers. KEF makes several speakers that fall into that category, such as the C3 and Q300. The Monitor Audio BX2 is also front-ported. Most of the others are rear-ported, so that is something to consider.

 

Hexx wrote:

Hi everyone.

I'm hoping some of you can help me out with choosing my first record player set-up. Basically I need everything.

I'm in the UK where there doesn't seem to be as much choice of record players (and I don't want to go 2nd hand) so I've decided to go with the Pro-ject Debut III SE. I think this is a UK only table (might be wrong) but it's basically the Pro-ject Debut III with an upgraded cartridge (OM10) and I think some other upgrades to the quality of the build. It's currently £225 ($364 US).

For an amp I have a shortlist of (bold is what I'm drawn to):

Marantz PM5004 - £155
Cambridge Audio AM10 - £170
Marantz PM6004 - £250

And for speakers I have quite a long list of (bold is what I'm drawn to):

Tannoy Mercury V1 - £95
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 - £95
Q Acoustics 2010i - £112
Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 - £130
Cambridge Audio S30 - £130
Q Acoustics 2020i - £149
Zali Zensor 1 - £180
Monitor Audio BX2 - £225
Boston Acoustics A26 - £230
Wharfedale 121 - £230

I

I'm wanting to go as cheap as possible while still getting a quality budget kit.

Any help/advice/guidance would be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot.

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I have the Marantz pm5004 and MA BX2 speakers and am quite happy with them.  If possible I would recommend finding a local store wher you can listen to some of the items you were looking to purchase.   I do not use the Marantz's phono stage so I can not say how good it is, I use the Music Fidelity V-LPSII with a Music Hall mmf2.2.

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