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Executive privilege cover-up ie; Operation Gunrunner

From The Washington Post:

President Obama could be on shaky legal ground with his assertion of executive privilege in a congressional investigation that has been going on for a year, according to scholars who study the limits of presidential power.

Louis Fisher, a former specialist on the separation of powers at the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, said he found the administration’s arguments “extremely unpersuasive.”

Mr. Fisher noted that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., in a letter to the president, cited the need to protect the Justice Department’s “deliberative process” in responding to the congressional inquiry into a botched gun-running operation.

“Yet he admits throughout his letter to Obama that the department has regularly provided the House committee with documents” involved in drafting a particular letter to the committee on Feb. 4, 2011, Mr. Fisher said.

“He states that the department ‘has already shared with the committee over 1,300 pages of documents concerning the drafting of the Feb. 4 letter,’” Mr. Fisher said. “In short, Holder was willing to release documents about that deliberative process.”

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Mr. Fisher, who has testified before Congress and written a book about executive privilege, also said Mr. Holder repeatedly cites “the fundamentally false notion that when Congress wants information from the executive branch, it must be in furtherance of a ‘legitimate legislative responsibility.’”

“The constitutional right of Congress to pursue oversight is as legitimate as its legislative function,” Mr. Fisher said. “Oversight is also essential in investigating corruption and illegal activity in the executive branch.”

‘Not to be lightly invoked’

Documents requested by House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa, California Republican, in the Fast and Furious gunrunning operation “should not qualify for executive privilege,” said Maureen Martin, senior fellow for legal affairs at the Heartland Institute, a conservative think tank based in Chicago.

“The Supreme Court has held that executive privilege is ‘an extraordinary assertion of power not to be lightly invoked,’” she said in a statement. “It is intended to safeguard deliberations in the executive branch over what course of action to take. That was decided long ago as far as Fast and Furious is concerned.”

But Steven D. Schwinn, an associate professor of law at the John Marshall Law School in Chicago, said he thinks Mr. Obama’s claim of privilege is valid.

“The committee appears to seek material relating to purely internal executive deliberations about how to respond to committee and press inquiries, and not to the substance of the program and other matters,” Mr. Schwinn said. “Largely for the reasons that the attorney general gives in his letter to the president, I think he’s right that this material is covered by executive privilege as against the committee’s request for it.”

The White House defended its assertion of executive privilege Wednesday, saying Mr. Obama has used the tactic only once, far less often than his predecessors.

But scholars say that what matters in court is the legal validity of presidential claims of privilege, not their frequency. The move also was awkward for a president who claims to be running for re-election as having the most transparent administration in history, and it opened a new front in Mr. Obama’s ongoing feud with congressional Republicans.

 

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Did I ever thank you?

Did I ever thank you for your posts in this section of the forum? They make it very convenient to see the the latest twists in the Republican propaganda campaign without leaving the audio forum.

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Is that all? lol!
Demondog wrote:

Did I ever thank you for your posts in this section of the forum? They make it very convenient to see the the latest twists in the Republican propaganda campaign without leaving the audio forum.

Your welcome.

I also want to thank you for responding like the vast majority of Obama supporters do when confronted with the issues. In this case, that would be calling the Washington Posts article, "..the latest twists in Republican propaganda." Without giving any examples whatsoever of how the Posts' article is "Republican propaganda".

In laymen's terms, your not convincing.

 BTW: The Washington Post is not a Republican newspaper, it endorsed Obama in '08.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/16/AR2008101603436.html

Ouch that hurt!

Would you like to try again? 

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I'm not convincing because

I'm not convincing because I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. People believe what they want to believe. I'm not going to change anyone's thinking, especially yours. The convincing is your thing, and I can see by this section of Stereophile's forum that you're really trying. You do get a few echoes from the like minded person once in a while, but have you ever changed anyone's mind?

I was just throwing out a little sarcasm as comment on what I see as an absurdity of a stream of one sided political messages on an audio forum. I find this "political soapbox for a few" section of the forum kind of funny, so I check in once in a while to see if there is anything interesting. Usually not.

Propaganda, or fair and balanced? haha  I did vote for a Republican for state governor in our last election.  He lost.

btw- I don't know anything about Washington Post, I didn't actually read the stuff copied into your first message.

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Progressive effectiveness
Demondog wrote:

btw- I don't know anything about Washington Post, I didn't actually read the stuff copied into your first message.

 

Well let's see now, you actually didn't read the column but, you called the column 'Republican propaganda."

..I'm sure that makes alot of sense in the mind of a liberal.

It's obvious that the progressives that have taken over the Democrat party have done a outstanding job with its supporters.

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What makes it bad

This whole thing would be a pimple on an elephant's ass if it weren't that an American federal peace officer was killed and a couple of these weapons were found at the scene.  What makes this in itself even worse was the federal border partrol agents were firing bean bags and the illegals were shooting weapons supplied to them from our own federal government.  The illegals were not shooting bean bags.  This whole thing is now one big cluster fuck leading a straight path to the fucking federal executive branch.  And as far as I'm concerned if you don't live in a border state than you do not have a clear picture.  I see illegals every day.  They are like fucking hobos walking north coming to your neighborhood.  When they get there please don't send them back south.

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