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Definitive?

Hi

I'm new to post here.
I am looking for an entirely new home speaker setup for a new home.
I've found Definitive speakers on the internet, but I can't seem to find any reviews or forum subject matter about Definitive on this website. Is there a particular reason?

I currently own KEF Q55s which I bought a long time ago, and I've been using separate Adcom preamplifier and amplifier. The sound I get out of my speakers I have always loved. I'm looking to improve on the sound quality if possible, and also use the new setup for home theater.

I want to spend less than 10000 on the speakers. So far, I think Paradigm, KEF, Revel, and Monitor look like brands that have strong selections for that budget.

Help?

Why no local interest in Definitive (or even Mirage)?

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I too am interested in this question. Sandy Gross the founder of this company was a partner of Mathew Polk before parting ways and starting Def Tech. I liked the fact that Def Tech had an integrated powered sub so that I didn't have to select crossover frequencys and slopes. With all of the multi page adds placed in certain pubs I was concerned that they might be another Bose. Any input?
Have a pair of WattPuppy 5.1 on the way to replace my Def Tech BP7002. Have no idea what to expect.

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I don't think they are another Bose other than sharing reflective technologies. Best Buy Magnolia carries the brand so see for yourself if a Best Buy is nearby. I have two of their 2b bi-polars for surround purposes although I find their sound too bright for main duties.

IMO they would not represent an upgrade over Kef. Your budget would permit some awesome speakers.

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Your budget can get some good speakers. Check out www.audioreview.com for user reviews (mostly glowing) or this site for recommended components, or some manufacturers' websites. Don't know the KEFs model, but I heard that KEFs are fine.

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Re: Definitive?

Hi 46&2,

Unfortunately one cannot dictate which speakers are best as the reproduction depends on the whole chain - front end/amp/speaker cable/room acoustics.
I'm a scientist and didn't believe that the actual cable could make a difference but have changed my views on this.
Definitive doesn't have the 'right badge' (en vogue) as some other makes but I bought a pair of Studio 350s for my 18 year old son. Powered from an ageing Cyrus 1 amp the sound is awesome in his bedroom - everybody who has heard them is impressed but then non are claimed 'audiophiles' so they just listen to the sound.
My own speakers are Studio 40s from Paradigm. Also have Paradigm Focus speakers and they are both very good - from my perspective.
Subs are Deftech Prosub 100s bought because I liked what Deftech had achieved with the bass from the small 350s.
No complaint with these either.

If you can get speakers 'on loan' and try them at home that's your best bet - assuming you already have an amp?

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So I just replaced my BP7002 with a pair of Wilson W/P 5.1.
I had reservations when I bought the Def Techs because all I could find in reviews were subjective based with no numerical based tests. And most of the reviews were from A/V mags, not audio only mags. The vocals from them sounded great. But I had problems with the low end. Some disks sounded great while others didn't. Equalization using pink noise and a spectrum analyzer helped a lot, but still the low end didn't sound right. My room also has some basic sound treatment. Now having the Watt/Puppies with only two 8" woofers and set up for the same in room response I can feel the bass and actually hear the details of the bass guitar strings and the kick drum has a realistic hit.
Despite the large woofer and two large passive radiators with it's own amplifier that does produce good amounts of low frequency sound it lacks detail. Quanity is no substitute for quality.

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Thanks everyone for the replies and links.

I went to a Magnolia store where they had Martin Logan speakers, Vienna Acoustics Mozart floorstandings (and others), and Definitive Technology speakers. We used the same amplifier (Denon) just to sample the sounds from the Vienna Acoustics and Def Techs. The def techs sounded very full but with very muddied or imprecise bass. In short, I didn't like them for imaging or bass separation, but could see why some people are impressed by them. The bass is very loud, but muddied and imbalanced for my tastes.

I found a local store recently that carries Jamos, and Sunfire amplification components. I loved the Jamo C807s. I have no experience, but I suspect the 200Wx5 Sunfire amp and pre-amp will provide enough clean power for them (they were using an integrated pioneer amp for demo, and it sounded alright). Anyone with experience with these brands?
I am keeping my KEFs and Adcom stuff for a second room, btw.

Thanks again

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