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CD player for classical

I know my question's title may seem too generic but, I could not get it any better.  I am very much into classical and care very little about rap and stuff.  I have burnt myself buying an old marantz 2500 that needed all the repairs you could imagine and I really do not want to go through such a process again.  Thus my thoughts about a CD player such as the CAL icon are totally out now.  It has to be new.  With the above info, I wonder if there are some suggestions about a cd player that will give good range and clarity.  I know the major problem with classical is the recordings actually, with the over miking and hiss coming out of nowhere, but that is ok.  I'd rather hear the bad recording over bad sound reproduction.

Another thing that I am totally unfamiliar with is the "transport" concept.  Here is the question.  My amplifier has two (2) positions for turntable.  I do not have a turntable now and I doubt I will have more than one if any.  Is that what a "transport" cd player needs?  Iwas under the impression that even the poorest CD players will produce a sound that will not be close as bad as a poor turntable or casette tape.  Is there something to do with that by using one of those preamps on the amplifier instead of the one run of the mill amp in a standard cheap cd layer?

I hope I don't sound too confusing but if I do it is because I am actually confused with the technology.

Thanks for your replies in advance.

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Hello lasonas ... You don't sound confused but it would have been better to have told us about your other equipment , synergy is very important , also knowing your budget would help . I had a Marantz SA11 that had decent sound but also kept breaking down . I spent most of last year reading reviews and demoing every CD player I could find , regardless of price . In the end the Ayre C5mp seemed to be the best sounding player to me , even though it's only a midfi player . Since it's purchase I've thrown every type of music at it I had and didn't fine a weak spot , clarity is it's forte , It also seemed to bring me a step closer to the music than the others . 

   As far as your second question , it should not matter what input you use as long as your amp dosn't have a built in phono stage , if thats the case stay away from using the turntable inputs for your CD player . If your amp has a switch on the front panel with two turntable positions it likely has a built in phono stage , and the two positions are for two different types of cartridges , MC or MM . 

    In your post you mentioned a poor sounding CD player sounding better than a poor turntable , I won't debate that point but  expect a bunch of turntable junkies to try and change your mind on that . Stay the coarse .

     I hope this helps a little .                                Tim 

    

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A CD transport has no

digital-to-analogue converter (DAC) and depends on a separate DAC. A CD player has the transport and DAC in a single unit.

You might want to check out the new Emotiva ERC-2.  30-day money back trial period.

http://emotiva.com/erc2.shtm

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you didn't give a price range.  my good friend is a classical buff, he claimed that most cd players tend to flatten out the sound of large scale recordings when the volume is turned up.  the best one he found is made by Playback Designs.  But, hold your breath, it goes for $15,000.00.  I have heard it many times and it is magnificent, but at that price, well, not for this poor man anyway.

good luck

 

tom

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I love classical music but....

.......$15,000.00 may be grounds for a divorce.  It was hard enough to pull through with my car purchase guys, but a CD player for that much will make me turn up the stereo to relieve my grief!!!  Now, I thank you for the inormation anyway, it is good to know how much some of these real goodies go for and develop a good appreciation of what hard earned money can provide.  But definitely a price range up to 1600, 1700 or may be reasonable but again the less expensive, the better, provided I don't have piece of junk that destroys the music and makes it unpleasant.  If the Ayre C5mp really performs much better than the emotiva I may as well go with it but at 10% the Ayre's tag, the price there is a real difference.  The issue I will have to address is not to have a threshold difference, where I know one product will not quite cut it.  The particular character of classical is that at any given moment you hear these  creciendos that fill the room followed by the silent moments where you hear the breath of the violinist.  One of my most favorite recordings ever is Beethoven's 3rd performed by the Hanover Band. I will ahve to find those and listen to them.  Any more suggestions are very welcome.

About my other equipment, I only have a vintage Marantz 2500 that cost an arm and a leg to fix from previous abuse, I am expecting a pair of Magnepan 1.6 that will be transformed by Peter Gunn, and I have a small second pair of speakers for the little study room, that are KEF IQ1 and to which I listen much of the time on NPR station music right now - gosh do I have a bad reception(?). 

Any ideas or feedback for the Rega Apollo or Rega Saturn? Also another player that came into "play" now is the Doge 6.  Anyone heard them?

Thanks again

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see my comment in your other post re: doge 6.  The Saturn is excellent too.  Everyone raves about the Sony 5400 and this mag rates it A+, several advertized on Agon for 11-1200 new.

 

Tom

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Hi,

 

I also enjoy mostly classical music and have owned several reference players over the years from Levinson, Wadia, ARC, Krell, Sony (5400Modwright) etc...  My current system utilizes an NAD C565BEE into a Yaoin Tube Buffer (JAN LN Phillips 6922 tube) and it is a revelation, even when compared to my cost no object front ends, at least in terms of shear musical enjoyment and "in the hall" sound!  Both cost only $1000 combined street price...not much wiggle room with profit margins as low as theirs.  Thia combo will make you melt:O)

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As above, check out the Sony

As above, check out the Sony 5400ES or Rega Saturn.

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The Saturn kills me

I recently did a home evaluation of the Rega Saturn and purchased a demo for $1500.  It is absolutely stunning for classical, its a whole new ballgame compared to my previous CD player, the Arcam CD17.  Very "analog like" sound, powerful bass, and buttery highs.  The sound of strings is the best I have heard with digital, very close to my Music Hall turntable.  I played a John Williams Star Wars CD that I could never really enjoy before because it sounded harsh on the Arcam sounded absolutely stunning on the Rega.  Highly recommended!

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