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Building system for vinyl with $3000 budget

Hello and thanks in advance for any help here.

I will be listening to mostly records and maybe cds in the future. I listen to all types of music, but most of my vinyl is traditional jazz records from my Dad's collection that he gave me.

LIstening area in a nook and I live in a condo so I will not be blasting, however I do not plan on being here forever either.

I do have a relative that can get me Marantz, Polk, JBL and Martin Logan at dealer cost. I have only been able to listen to Martin Logan Electromotion ESLs and Marantz from this list. Thinking the discount should be about 35% of retail.

Yesterday I was able to listen the Revel F12s as well as Klipsch speakers. I liked the F12s better.
I listened to Rotel seperates, the RC1550 preamp and RB1562 power amp. The dealer quoted me $900 for the pair of Revels and $1250 for the Rotel amp and preamp.

I am looking at the Project 3 turntable or Project 1Expression 3 turntables.

I am leaning towards the Rotel/Revel package so far. I wish I had more options to listen to, but there is only one hi fi store here and Best Buy is only other option. From what I have read, Rotel and Revel F12s get good reviews.

Any pros or cons here? Opinions?

I am sure you guys get tons of newbie questions and I really appreciate your knowledge knowing of course we all have different taste and preferences.

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You are in Tennessee and should listen to

Emotiva who are based in Franklin. I think you would be satsified with a USP-1 preamp (with a very competent phono stage) and either a pair of UPA-1 monoblock power amplifiers or an XPA-2 power amplifier.  These components will make those Revel F12s sing.

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/the-emotiva-usp-1-preamplifier-and-upa-1-amplifiers/

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/preamplifiers/689-emotiva-usp-1-stereo-preamplifier.html

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/power-amplifiers/496-a-secrets-power-amplifier-review.html

You might also want to listen to the Emotiva X-Ref XRT-6.2 loudspeakers before committing to the Revels.

If you decide on the ProJect Xpression III you will likely want to replace the cartridge with something better.  The Sumiko Oyster is a bit of an underachiever.

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You are from Tennessee and should consider

listening to Emotiva from Franklin. A USP-1 preamplifier (with a very competent phono stage) and a pair of UPA-1 monoblock amplifiers or an XPA-2 amplifier should get a listen in your home with your loudspeakers. Emotiva would make those Revels really sing! A USP-1 and pair of UPA-1s would run $1,150 delivered, with a 30-day in home trial period and 5 year warranty.

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/the-emotiva-usp-1-preamplifier-and-upa-1-amplifiers/

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/preamplifiers/689-emotiva-usp-1-stereo-preamplifier.html

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/power-amplifiers/496-a-secrets-power-amplifier-review.html

If you get the ProJect Xpression III you will likely want to replace the underachieving Sumiko Oyster cartridge with something better.

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for your turntable...

i would suggest the rega rp1 for $445. then you could get a nice phono preamp like the NAD PP2i for $130. good luck. i also have the emotiva upa 1's and can recommend them as well.

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for your turntable...

The Music Hall MMF-2.2 at $449 is a better choice than the Rega RP1 as it has adjustable VTA and the Music Hall Tracker cartridge which is significantly better than the Ortofon OM5e.  The Emotiva USP-1 has a very good phono preamp, likely better than the NAD PP-2i.

"And as switching to my Cambridge 640P and NAD PP3i revealed, the USP-1’s onboard stage is easily the equivalent (and perhaps slightly more resolving) of these $200 standalone counterparts.", Jeff Dorgay, Tone Audio.

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Need some recommendations on

Need some recommendations on cables as well. 

Interconnect for components? Not looking for the cheapest or the most expensive...I figure something suitable for the price of my system...midrange.

Power distribution...component like the Panamax or a good power strip?

 

Appreciate it!

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Blue Jeans Cable

Blue Jeans Cable

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Thanks, actually looking at

Thanks, actually looking at those

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for cables...

i'm a fan of TARA Labs cables.

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for cables...

I doubt the Tara cables for more than twice the price will sound much different than Blues Jeans BJC LC-1 cables.  The Emotiva X-Series RCA cables are competent as well.

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Strongly endorse the Emotiva

Strongly endorse the Emotiva recommendation...The company delivers way above its cost. I would add to that...try Maggie MMG's direct from magnaplaner. Last, do not make the mistake I did and skimp on the phono preamp...buy the best you can afford.

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Emotiva power amps are fully protected from

fault conditions and should be plugged directly into the wall.  A good surge protector for other compenents should be adequate.

I also think that Magnepan MMGs are worth a listen. Paired with a good subwoofer they will compete with loudspeakers costing many times more. And again you can try them at home in your own room with your equipment and if you don't like them you can send them back for a purchase price refund.

My equipment:

13.3" MacBook Air, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD, iTunes/BitPerfect
MacBook Air SuperDrive
Western Digital My Book Essential 2TB USB HD
Schiit Bifrost USB DAC on order
Emotiva USP-1, ERC-1 and two UPA-1s
Pro-Ject Xpression III and AT440MLa
AKAI AT-2600 and Harman Kardon TD4400
Magnepan MMG Magnestands
Rythmik Audio F12

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