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Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Archive

Well it seems that most, if not all, of my previous attempts to stir up some interest in what's going on right under our noses over at archive.org regarding the advancement of high end audio has fallen on deaf ears (or is that blind eyes?).

So I'm going to give this one last shot. Forget burning a DVD-Audio disc or even downloading a 2 or 3 gigabyte show, how about just downloading one sample song in a 24 bit, 96 kHz format and giving it a listen? I'm pretty sure that many of you have the computer hardware; i.e. broadband connection, hard drive, soundcard and a fairly decent computer audio playback system; and the know how.

Just indulge me a little and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at what you will hear.

Here's what you do:

First you have to download the song. The link for a really nice recoding is Charlie Hunter Trio - Jazz Standard, New York, NY February 17th, 2006, as you can see this a very recent show, this past Friday to be exact, and a great recording. Once you open the link, click on any of the audio file download links (I recommend ch2006-02-17t04) and save the file to your hard drive. The file will be in a lossless compression file format known as "flac" and will have to be decoded back to a wave (*.wav) file format for most media players to be able to play it. The link for the flac utility is FLAC Frontend. Don't worry the flac file is safe, virus free, free of charge and very small plus it works great.

Once you download and decode the file give the song a listen and then let me know what you think about the sound quality. (If you also happen to like Charlie Hunter that would be a nice bonus) And remember that this is not a "professional" recording. I say if the record companies won't give us high resolution discs we'll just have find ways to make them ourselves.

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Re: Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Arch

Jazzfan,

Don't give up on us. I've been pretty busy. I am downloading the music file (28 minutes. I guess my DSL is pretty slow-dsl.

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Re: Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Arch

OK OK - 39 minutes and 256 MEGA Hootsies later, then another 30 minutes trying to get Nero which is suppose to play "flac" files ....finally downloaded Winamp which plays Flac....Listening on computer Altecs with Sub.....Sounds fabulous! Then piped in to big rig thru USB external DACS, ummmm... not sooo great, but not bad either. It IS a live show after all. Love the guitar player. Could have sworn I heard Hendrix yell "HEAH" during the guitar solo. Reminded me of Electric Ladyland. Must be the trio plus one? Gonna give it a few more spins while catching some dinner.

RG

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Re: Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Arch

Okay here's the deal, the main reason I put the link to Flac frontend in my previous post was so that you would download it!! And use it!

Yes, I know it's really cool to have the codec for the media player which allows it to play the compressed file but some codecs and media players don't seem to get along too well. Foobar and WinAmp are two players that seem to work quite well with most the common compressed file formats. Windows Media Player and flac don't seem to get along well together so I figured I'd offer an easy solution to the problem.

Windows Media Player and most other media players, have no problem with a 24 bit wav file, provided your soundcard can handle 24 bit/96 kHz audio.

Anyway, I'm glad that you liked the music and can appreciate the sound quality. To answer you're question, that's only a trio playing. Charlie Hunter plays an eight string guitar and plays the bass part on his guitar, plus he makes the guitar sound like some type of keyboard instrument half the time. Pretty wild, uh.

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Re: Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Arch

OK, I have a dumb question. Without a more "conventional" copy such as 16-bit to compare it to ... you see where I'm going with this.

BTW, thanks for the link.

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Re: Beating A Dead Horse: 24 Bit Recording & Live Music Arch

It's no trouble to run the 24-bit file through an audio editor and save it as a 16-bit, 44.1 wav.

Audacity is a good, free audio editor if you don't have one:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

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