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I sincerely hope he is remembered for more than just his contribution to Jazz at the Pawnshop.

Oh gosh...don't feed Jazzfan!!!

Struts, again you come up with an artist that would seem somewhat obscure here in the states. I had a difficult time finding any samples of his music. One outfit wants 50 large for your recommended recording. I did find some samples from "Dompan At The Savoy" (at a very unlikely place Clicky Here) which also seems to offer a fairly good sample of Arne's breadth. The piano player is not too shabby either. Arne seemed fairly young from the album cover picture. Thanks for the heads up although it would seem I am once again late to the party.

RG

Hi there RG.

In a way I understand jazzfan's point about JATP and in a way I don't. IMHO it is a superb recording of some nice music that certainly doesn't deserve the epithet 'dreck'. I know he is just trying to stir up debate sometimes but all the same. I agree that JATP is also over-hyped, over-priced and over-played. I suspect Arne laughed when he read that 'Best Jazz Recording of the Century' quote. Marketing gone mad. Anyway, I really doubt it is what he would want to be remembered for.

I am not a jazz aficionado like you guys but I grew up listening to my father's jazz (whether I liked it or not, which until pretty recently I didn't) and I have my own idea of what consitutes good jazz. In my view Arne Domn

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I sincerely hope he is remembered for more than just his contribution to Jazz at the Pawnshop.

Oh gosh...don't feed Jazzfan!!!

RG

Not to worry - I have the utmost respect for Arne Domn

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Sure I rail against JATPS at every chance I get but that's not because I dislike the record or consider the musicianship bad but rather because I don't feel that JATPS merits the high esteem in which it is held by so many audiophiles. The same applies to Jennifer Warnes and "Famous Blue Raincoat", which is a good record but no where near good enough for all the audiophile worship it receives, Super Disc, my ass.

I suspected as much. And fwiw I agree concerning Famous Blue Raincoat.

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I should also point out that my disdain for JATPS does not stem from some kind of jazz snobbery, like only a US born musician can really play jazz. Many of my favorite jazz recordings are either by European musicians or heavily feature European musicians. And in the area of cutting edge modern big band jazz the Europeans are light years ahead of stateside musicians.

Good to hear. Nationalism is one thing, saxism quite another

Struts, thanks for passing along the sad news. I'll open a fresh bottle of wine tonight and put on JATP.

It's not the artist's fault that certain albums become "over appreciated". Until recently, I'd totally missed Jennifer Warnes, except for her Runaway Horse cut on Rob Wasserman's wonderful Duets album. When the re-release of Famous Blue came out I bought it wondering what I'd missed. It is a fine, well recorded album, but not earth shattering. A few spots do show off the system.

It's funny about JATP, I'd always thought that the clinking glasses were overdone, way more than I usually hear at a live jazz club. Still, I'd sit down with a friend and they'd say, "wow, listen to that glass clinking, just like the real thing" and I'd wonder why people used that as a standard. (Maybe they spent more time in bars than me, particularly those annoying ones where no one's listening to the music and everyone is talking and clinking glasses).

Clinking glasses and all, it's coming out tonight.

Dave

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Struts, thanks for passing along the sad news. I'll open a fresh bottle of wine tonight and put on JATP.

It's not the artist's fault that certain albums become "over appreciated". Until recently, I'd totally missed Jennifer Warnes, except for her Runaway Horse cut on Rob Wasserman's wonderful Duets album. When the re-release of Famous Blue came out I bought it wondering what I'd missed. It is a fine, well recorded album, but not earth shattering. A few spots do show off the system.

It's funny about JATP, I'd always thought that the clinking glasses were overdone, way more than I usually hear at a live jazz club. Still, I'd sit down with a friend and they'd say, "wow, listen to that glass clinking, just like the real thing" and I'd wonder why people used that as a standard. (Maybe they spent more time in bars than me, particularly those annoying ones where no one's listening to the music and everyone is talking and clinking glasses).

Clinking glasses and all, it's coming out tonight.

Dave

Well said Dave.

We pay so little to enjoy and share these great live recordings.

Dan

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It's funny about JATP, I'd always thought that the clinking glasses were overdone, way more than I usually hear at a live jazz club. Still, I'd sit down with a friend and they'd say, "wow, listen to that glass clinking, just like the real thing" and I'd wonder why people used that as a standard. (Maybe they spent more time in bars than me, particularly those annoying ones where no one's listening to the music and everyone is talking and clinking glasses).

Clinking glasses and all, it's coming out tonight.

Dave

WWCMS: What Would Charles Mingus Say

Research assignment:

Charles Mingus and clinking glasses

Post your answers to this thread: Mingus and the clinking glasses

Well, in the middle of celebrating Arne's life and music (about half way through a great bottle of Chianti Classico Reserva by Querceto) I ran across "Antiphone Blues" on SACD, a reissue from the Proprious with Arne and organist Gustaf Sjokvist riffing blues in a Swedish church. I ordered and it came in today.

Anyone that likes sax and blues will likely like this. The organ lines a very simple, church-like lines, which Arne freely improvises over. The cuts are "made for LP" at 3 to 4 minutes long. The beauty is in Arne's tone, mixed with the organ accompanyment. You just luxuriate in the sound.

Don't expect to hear musical ideas that you've never heard before. Just enjoy the great sounds in a very nice acoustical space. Of course, the sonics are extremely good.

Dave

Glad you enjoyed it Dave. Proprius is one of Sweden's top audiophile labels (for a country of only 9 million people we have quite a few) and their recordings are generally excellent. I have a number of their classical CDs but not yet any jazz; I think I'll have to check this one out.