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Any experience with kef C3?

I am looking to buy some bookshelf speakers with my Onkyo reciever and came across the Kef C3's, they look very nice in my opinion, are small and fit in my budget. But they got a very bad review on whathifi , so my question is: are they realy that bad? Or could anyone recomend me some other speakers within this price range that sound better but are not to big either?

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What is your budget specifically?

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my budget is 200 euro's,

my budget is 200 euro's, around 300 dollars. The q acoutics 2010i , wich i really like, are too expensive in my country. I also like the Kef C1 but i have no stores in the area with Kef on display so i don't know how they sound, but i like them becauce they are nice and small. 

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PSB Alpha B1s?

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they are not available in my

they are not available in my country, I live in the Netherlands, too bad.

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Most of the posters here buy speakers based on their sound after auditioning them. Speakers that are "nice and small" almost always have severe limitations on frequency response and volume.  Also, they usually don't sound very good.  

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What a massive generalization

"Also, they usually don't sound very good."

But there are many that do. A list of great small speakers that fall within LukeM's budget (or maybe a few extra bucks) could include: Wharfedale 10.1 ($350/pair), Dayton Audio B652 ($40/pair, Reviewed in our January Issue), Tannoy Mercury V1 ($320/pair), Boston Acoustics A25 ($299.98/pair), and The SuperZero 2.0 ($198/pair--more dynamically limited). 

Distributor for Wharfedale in the Netherlands:

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Support/DistributorsDealers/tabid/61/Default.aspx?CountryID=30#countryinfo

look up tannoy info here, it exists in the Netherlands:

http://tannoy.com/SalesService.aspx

and this place sells Polk gear:

http://www.audioplus.nl/

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"Most of the posters here buy speakers based on their sound after auditioning them."

Very true and very important. Auditioning is the best way to tell if you're gonna dig it.

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I suggest that you consider the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 or 10.2. These have had excellent reviews from several reviewers.

 

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I am looking to buy some bookshelf speakers with my Onkyo reciever and came across the Kef C3's, they look very nice in my opinion, are small and fit in my budget. But they got a very bad review on whathifi , so my question is: are they realy that bad? Or could anyone recomend me some other speakers within this price range that sound better but are not to big either?

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Thanks for the replies, I

Thanks for the replies, I tried to find any shops in the area that have any of these speakers on display, but there is only one that sells tannoy and some others not in the list, but they only sell the prestige line so not the V1. And does anybody know how the Kef c3's compare to these speakers? Would i it be very stupid to buy any of these on the internet? If i cannot find any other shops in the area, I think I will go for the wharfedale's because they have very good reviews and look nice. One final question: are the wharfedale's real wood veneer or vinyl?

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I went to some shop which

I went to some shop which sell some of the speakers but they weren't for audition in any of them. There will be a sale next week in an online-shop  in my country for the Q acoustic 2020i, they will be just a bit cheaper than the wharfedale diamond 10.1 wich i was going to buy. My question is if they are better than the wharfedale speakers? 

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Best for 300 euro

Kef has always made respectable speakers at reasonable prices....probably your best bet where you live.  In the states there is a new company called SVS that offers high end speakers (Ultra line) for ridiculously low prices plus they pay for shipping and offer a 45 day trial and return shipping gauranteed.  Don't know if they ship international? 

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Cambridge audio s30, Boston Acoustics a25 or wharfedale 10.1

I will order my speakers this week and I have made a selection of speakers, but hardly find any comparison between them. I am at the moment considering the Cambridge audio S30's, the Boston Acoustics A25 and the Wharfedale 10.1. The S30's and the A25's cost 200 euros / pair and the wharfedale's 260 euros/pair. The Wharfedale's are my favourite without listening to any of them. My question is how do these speakers differ in sound signature, detail and bass and are the wharfedale's worth the extra money? Do the S30's and the Wharfedale's have a real wood veneer or vinyl?

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I haven't heard the Cambridge S30s, but I discuss the Boston Acoustics A25 here and the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1s here. Our complete review of the Wharfedale is here. Both speakers offer outstanding fit and finish. The Wharfedales use a vinyl finish, but it's the prettiest vinyl finish I've ever seen.

It's been a while since I listened to these speakers at home, but I miss them both and I'd say the Wharfedales offer a more nuanced sound -- you'll feel drawn into the music, invited to enjoy inner detail and sweet, natural tone color -- while the Bostons will do more to bring the music to you with a powerful, present sound, well-defined images and a super stable soundstage.

I don't think you can go wrong.

Though I've tried, I haven't actually heard the KEF C3. For what it's worth, when I visited KEF in the UK, they were almost apologetic about the C3. It's safe to assume that it's not their best design.

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dali zensor 1

Thanks for all the advice, tomorow i will go to an audio shop and audition the Dali Zensor 1's wich are also somewhat in my pricerange, if i like them i will probably buy them.

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I bought the Dali zensor 1's

I bought the Dali zensor 1's yesterday and am very pleased with them. the offer very nice treble and Unbelievable detail, they could use a subwoofer but they still offer nice bass for the size. At that audio shop I couldn't compare the dali's to any other in this price range, I did compare them to the Kef Q100 and LS50 wich offered a bit less bright treble and more convincing bass, another thing i noticed is that both Kef speakers filled the room more with sound than the Dali's did(if that makes any sense). But I don't think the Kef's are worth the price bump over de Dali's. I would like to thank you for your advice, I am very happy with my new speakers and hopefully will enjoy them for a lot of years to come.

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Sweet!

Play with room positioning to see if you can squeeze more bass out of it. Maybe push your speakers closer to the walls (rear or side), but make sure the distance between the walls for both speakers remains even or else you may run into uneven reflections...

 

i have a relatively small listening space for my loudspeakers and my left speaker is much closer to my left wall, creating unwanted reflections and making my soundstage un-even. I haven't had a moment to fix this, but if i trust my new roommate, most likely the system will be movingi into a much larger living room.

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