Besides I will have no part in banning anyone.
I wasn't asking for anyone to be banned. I was - and have been - asking for a civil discussion and an end to the disruption created by, in this case, one individual. You haven't been in on the years of discussions which have all been derailed in the same manner by mostly the same participants. May has expressed her frustration at every such thread being driven into the ditch in a similar fashion and mostly with the same words. If you go back through the archives, Freako, you'll find this is quite typical and most especially on weekends when SM isn't available. While the cat's away ...
I wasn't asking you to jump on any "Let's ban so and so" bandwagon, I was only asking who would join me in saying we would like to keep a civil discussion going without these same distractions in each and every thread which attempts to discuss something not understood by mainstream thinking and conventional measurements. I was hoping others might feel the same way about every thread being derailed in the same manner so that this thread and May's thread might actually progress beyond the usual stopping point here where threads get shut down due to cat fights between members. You can either allow members to repeatedly abuse the "don't be an asshole" rule or you can step up to say the insults are out of line and unnecessary and as a result of enough people speaking up hopefully the thread can continue forward. I certainly have noticed that one "side" of these threads has never had a problem with calling anyone on the "other side" for what they see as, uh ... "incivility". If necessary, Freako, I can supply context to that statement.
There's my explanation of what I was attempting, now can we get back to the subject of the thread?