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$5000 Budget for New Speakers (what should I buy?)

Hi Everybody,

I'm treating myself to a new set of speakers. I need a 5 speaker surround (don't need  a sub) with tower loud speakers that also beautifully reproduce music.

Was thinking about the Deftech Mythos STS + Center + rear.

But I'd love your suggestions. If you had this budget, what would you buy today?

Regards,

-Joe

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Totem

I've owned Wilson, Dynaudio, B&W, Martin Logan, Magnepan, Dunlavy, Dalquist, JBL, Kef, Monitor Audio and Totem speakers...not the cheap stuff either, and Totem has won my heart!  Totem delivers the essence of music with even less than stellar ancillaries, but will rise to an exhalted level when mated to exceptional gear.  They simply draw you in and grab your soul....unless of course you don't have a soul to grab hold of?   

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Well if it were me I would skip the center and rear speakers and focus completely on two good quality front main speakers. I have yet to hear a surround sound setup that can top a proper two channel setup. The price range you are looking to shop within is a tuff one as things don't start to get interesting until about double that value, especially if you are looking for a full range tower speaker.

There are a boat load of excellent monitors in the price range you listed. I would probably look for a top notch monitor , mid-fi sub combo in the 5k range to get the most bang for my buck initially. This is assuming you don't feel like shopping the used market on Audiogon for even more bang for the buck.

If you get a good enough monitor now then all you have to do later is shoot for a better sub and amp to add the next level of SQ to your system.

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A broken record here,

but a mint pair of used Magnepan 1.6QRs modified by Magnestand.

http://www.indiespinzone.com/magnestand.html

I agree that a good two channel system is likely to produce better sound than a cacophony of multiple speakers and the complex electronics needed to drive them.

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How about the Genelec 8030a Power Pak?

Thanks for all the advice everyone!

I saw a pair of larger Genelecs yesterday and was impressed. I was told that the PowerPak works very well together and produces nice surround sound. My only concern is that it's going into a slightly larger room than recommended (3,500 cu ft).

Any thoughts about this instead or would you just recommend buying a pair of larger Genelecs with a sub?

-Joe

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WOW! "...nice surround sound"

is to me an oxymoron. You seem to be really off track.  The Genelec is a nearfield monitor, not likely to be optimal for a surround sound system, let alone a 3500 sq. ft. room.

If you really want a surround system look at the new Golden Ear Tritons.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/goldenear-technology-tritoncinema-two

But you gotta listen.

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You were right...

I was off track.  Until today when I went to listen to the Magnepan 1.7s with CC5 center and MC1 rears.

Mindblowing sound and surprisingly affordable. I need to add a 2x225 Watt power amp for the 1.7s but other than that, it seems like my Denon 2808 receiver is adequate for the center and rear.

Do you bless this purchase?  Is there anything in this setup that you'd change?  Whole package came to $6,000 which is slighly above my budget, but I'm willing to live with it. Let me know if the CC5 or MC1s are too much. Maybe I got oversold on those.

And thank you SO much for being the voice of reason. Your advice has been invaluable!

-Joe

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If it sounds good to you

that is all that really matters.  I have Magnepans myself and would think you could do a lot worse than that set up for $6000.  What kind of amp are you looking at to drive the 1.7s?  For a 3500 sq. ft. room you probably weren't oversold.

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More details...

First off, I just want to make sure you're aware that my home theater room is 3,500 cu ft, not sq ft. It is 320 sq ft. 

Second, the amp I have is a Denon AVR 2808CI 7.1

Here's the link to the specs http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QEZMqMxNeZA/p_033AV2808C/Denon-AVR-2808CI.html

They sales guy wants to power the rears and center with the 2808. He wants me to buy a Statement 2x225 Watt Power Amp for the 1.7s.

Does that all make sense to you?

Thanks again for all your time and advice.

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Sorry, that is quite a difference. Still a bigger room than I

have. The Anthem Statement A2 is a fine amp, but instead I'd look into the Emotiva XPA-2 on sale right now for $719 delivered and save about $500.  The Denon should be just fine for center and surround duty, although maybe at a later date you could get an Emotiva XPA-3 or XPA-5 to drive those.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/power-amplifiers/496-a-secrets-power-amplifier-review.html

http://www.audioxpress.com/reviews/media/lyle710.pdf

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-xpa-2

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Thanks!

I bought the speakers and mentioned the Emotiva. The salesperson said he's had bad experiences with the Emotiva and their sound quality. Anyway, he's looking for less expensive (possibly used) power amp. Wanted to charge me $2000 for the Statement Amp!  Anyway, do you have the Emotiva XPA-2 and do you like it?

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I have a pair of Emotiva UPA-1 monoblocks

driving Magnepan MMGs modified by Peter Gunn.  I also have an Emotiva USP-1 preamp and ERC-1 CD player.  The Emotiva products perform way above their price point.  And I know what the saleperson is talking about...the bad experience comes from Emotiva products he doesn't sell which have sound quality which rivals anything he does sell.  I've heard the Emotiva XPA-2 ($719) and the Parasound Halo A21 ($2300) and the A21 doesn't beat the XPA-2 by much, certainly makes one think about whether or not a marginal increase in sound quality is worth a hefty increase in price.  If you have the means, you could check out the Emotiva XPA-1 monoblocks (1000 watts into 4 Ohms) which would really make those Magnepans shine.  You can try them for 30 days and return them for a full purchase price refund if you don't want them.

My system: http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/MagnestandMMG1.jpg

Emotiva XPA-1 review: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/power-amplifiers/520-a-secrets-power-amplifier-review.html

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