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Immigration Reform: Is the Gang of 8's proposal good for the US?

So far, my assessment of the Gang of 8's provision in the Senate has everything to do with political jockeying for the current and future Hispanic vote and nothing to do with what is good for the US.

The Republicans on the committee are going along because they have this fantasy that at some point in time, the Hispanic voters will abandon the Democratic Party and start voting in droves for the Republicans.  The Democrats are looking at a permanent enlargement of their lower income voting block when the current undocumented individuals get transformed into citizens.

Some key points in the Gang of 8's proposals:

  • Everything to do with securing the border is entirely subjective, there are no concrete metrics to hold them accountable.  In fact, this proposal has looser border security language than current provisions on the books.
  • There is no e-verify provision to ensure only documented people are employed within our borders. This is really the only way to control the flow of illegal immigration.  Right now, once an illegal gets 30 miles from the border, they have little concern of deportation.
  • The language regarding criminal behavior is vague and there are no automatic barriers to citizenship.  (Under the Dream Act, 99.5% of the applications for permanent resident status have been rubber stamped by the immigration folks.  Even the Union folks inside the DHS are raising their eyebrows at this practice.)

What would be a sensible, less politically movtivated approach?

  • Allow for a clear path to citizenship for individuals who were brought here when they were age 16 or younger. (consistent with the Dream Act) However, they need to have a clean criminal record, (no felonies, no felonies plead down to misdemeanors, etc.), are able to demonstrate financial independence by the age of 21 for themselves and any dependents, and graduated high school with a demonstrated proficiency in English.
  • For individuals who entered the country when they were older than 16;  these individuals will need to meet the same requirements above, however they will not be granted citizenship.  If they meet the requirements, they may become permanent residents of the United States if they choose to stay.  If they desire citizenship, they will have to leave the US and apply for readmission through legal immigration channels.  The purpose of this is to not reward law-breakers with citizenship and to send a clear message to people desiring entry and citizenship into this country, you need to go through legal channels.
  • A national employment verification system needs to be in place with specific penalties in place for companies who hire illegal workers.

Legal immigration guidelines can be redrawn and liberalized to allow more immigrants in who have needed skills and knowledge that will provide an economic benefit for the country.  We already have a surplus within our borders of low-knowledge, low-skilled workers (or non-workers in some cases).  Our immigration policy should be consistent with our economic needs, not the wants of our political parties.

Disclosure:  Native born, US citizen.  Middle Class worker for more than 40 years.

 

 

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    Wrong audience my man!

    Most of the people on this forum think the American Revolution was won using paint ball guns. 

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    Gotta start somewhere. (nt)

    I ought to know, as a school teacher and member of a public employee union, I understand I am operating in unfriendly waters, but it is fun tweaking with facts.  Keepin' the faith alive.

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    Re: Immigration Policy

    bad teacher wrote:
      Our immigration policy should be consistent with our economic needs, not the wants of our political parties.

    Agree. I came to the US as an immigrant on an H1B visa, which is not easy to get. Became a US citizen in 2003.

    John Atkinson
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    Unfriendly Waters

    Yeah, you better be careful; all these right-wingers have AR15s and AK47s. They don't put up with much from us liberals.

    Intelligent thought or comment is not allowed.

     

     

    bad teacher wrote:

    I ought to know, as a school teacher and member of a public employee union, I understand I am operating in unfriendly waters, but it is fun tweaking with facts.  Keepin' the faith alive.

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    Unfriendly Waters???

    I am closer to the Libertarian / Conservative end of the political spectrum.  I have no fears from the rRght, my concerns originate with the Left.  In a public school, speech that challenges the liberal status quo is often met with retribution.  I have seen some of the best teachers in my building transferred against their will into assignments where they were only marginally qualified.  Their offense:  using logic and facts to challenge some of the distorted policies and practices in public education.

    Lamont Sanford
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    Excuse me?

    You have to excuse commie man.  He has forgotten about all the crap the liberals on the board has told people to shut up about.  Put up a picture of the president painted up like The Joker.  See what you get.  Start a thread about their region.  Watch it disappear.  And on and on and on.  Oh, they let you do what you want here but cross the line of making them look bad and the thought police will come out. 

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    I think It will be better to

    I think It will be better to ask all the Americans with the help of some survays. These immigration reforms are good or not.

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