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Fred, here's a counter-example to the "pop musicians don't hire jazz musicians" observations: a few weeks ago Ani di Franco played Charlottesville, VA with Allison Miller on drums and Todd Sickafoose on bass. Neither Miller nor Sickafoose is at the absolute top of the jazz heap, but both have good chops and jazz feeling in their playing with Ani. It was a very fine show.also, going the other direction, check out Ben Allison's latest CD. it rocks!