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You haven't been able to "crush" me so far while I have contnually shown your entertainers and clowns to be liars and hypocrits as well as corporate shills.

Why would this be any diffferent when you continue to post the same old crap?

Possibly I do need a new browser, this one gave my information to Bush, but you still have not shown any proof.

I am becoming more than a bit impatient with your constant repitition of non-facts.

Unless you can come up with proof in your next post of Owen's words opposing the specific bill in the House tonight this is done.

You've lost and you have proven yourself to be even a bigger idiot than anyone had assumed - which exceeding those characterizations wouldn't have been easy until you started this BS.

There are are bigger fish to fry as I've posted in dozens and dozens of examples displaying repub dishonetsy, Stoo-Pidity and hypocrisy in their own words and deeds.

And you can't come up with a single quote from Owen's himself.

Pathetic!

You've bored me to tears and you have nothing other than lowered credibilty - which again I would not have expected to be possible - for all of this.

Produce or STFU!

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I am afraid you confuse verbosity with winning arguments...but it is amusing.

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RINO ALERT!!! RINO ALERT!!!

Well lookey who is seeking bipartisanship days after the election ...


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The evil one bought enough votes for a squeaker win last night BUT, will the votes hold if the bill ever gets to conference and the abortion language is removed?

Will Reid drag the mess in the Senate out for a vote this year?

Entertaining times as the dems work to unemploy themselves and lose scores of seats next year.

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Best prediction yet! With your batting average on predictions and total lack of proof for anything, the Dems are in like Flint.

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Best prediction yet! With your batting average on predictions and total lack of proof for anything, the Dems are in like Flint.

Called the conomy in August of 2007, called the election at the same time. Got 2 out of 3 in last weeks elections..I feel pretty good about my record...

Folk are mad and getting madder. The left is riding on 2008 mistake and simple obtuseness. Conservatives are moving and the left entrenching...Good luck next year.

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Called the conomy in August of 2007 ...

I'd have more confidence if you'd predicted cooler weather in January.

Like I said, you guys see one as a trend.

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One?

We took the big 2 on Tuesday...TAO's numbers have been crashing for months:

The left is losing independents

Federal Receipts are dropping as the economy tanks and wealth producers bail on socialism..

Trends I know...what I am short of is wishful thinking, the fairy dust that makes up 90% of democrat hopes right now.

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At best you predicted 1/2 of one election- the easy half. Virginia was a forgone conclusion months ago. I could have asked my dog to predict that race and she would have got it right. As to NJ, not much of a prediction there either really, there wasn't much that was going to save Corzine this time. Congrats! You pulled off something a dead man could have managed, the easy 1/2 of 1/2 of one election.

A "trend" in repub parlance, 1/2 of 1/2 of one, and hysterical to the rest of the world.

The dems won 2 seats in the US Congress with both candidates running as Democrats and no strings to tie them to anything other than that adgenda which supports the Democratic priorities.

The two moderate repubs elected as Governors are going to have to run independent thinking states as moderates - as they promised during their campaigns - or face ouster come the next election. One has already annnounced his intent to act as a RINO. He'll be denounced and kicked out of the party by this coming Tuesday.

I've shown you the proof of all of this before. I know, I know, "proof" is something you avoid like the swine flu vaccine which is just another Obama plot to implant nano-chip tracking devices in repubs so he can round you all up when he gets his "re-education camps" ready.

As always you are nuts and whistling past the graveyard - which seem to go together in repub circles.

O's popularity is still at above average high marks and remains at or above 50% when you read polls that do not ask, "How much to do you detest the Kenyan born Muslim Socialist President who hates America enough to pal around with terrorists and who is coming to take your weapons and tax your grandchildren? C'mon, you can tell, this isn't going anywhere."

Makes W's dirty tricks push polling of McCain in 2000 seem like a real sweetheart process.

Geezobeezo!

Goerge's numbers were in the mid 40's on Sept 10th, '01 and sinking fast with every new poll by the legitimate questionnaires. By the time he got done pitching privatizing Social Security early in his second term his numbers were headed so far into the toilet only Darth Cheney's absurdly low approvals could better define "beneath the bottom of the pile - or Nixon's".

Your predictive prowress is as poor as your memory.

And that is one reason you are not to be taken seriously.

And yet another reason you should just be taken away where you won't harm yourself or others.

Fiscal receipts? You want me to use fiscal receipts during The Great repub Recession which is worse than any other repub recession - of which there have been too many to mention - beyond The Great repub Depression of the '20's as a measure of how O is doing?!

ROTFLMF'ingAO!!!

Maybe you should get W to ask his "base" why they aren't spending the cash his still in effect tax breaks to the top 2% are providing. His tax policies defined sinking Federal revenues until the Dems will thankfully allow them to expire next year. At which time the repubs will forget they were the party that put the sunset clause in the bill and accuse the Dems of a tax increase. What a bunch of stinkin' fishbait you guys are!

W's fiscal policies - if you can graciously call them that - project a minimum of 1/2 trillion $$$ deficits annually well into the future. That O had to come along and save the world from W's idiocy and malfeasance is still something the entire world talks about.

Let's see, Bill Clinton is widely loved and welcomed in every corner of the world doing his philanthropic work. Obama still draws huge crowds and wins international awards - that the repubs falsely tell him he must not accept - and he has instilled hope in the majority of the world Bush did not bomb into the 12th century and turn against the US for future generations as far as the mind can fathom.

And what is W doing? George is hawking "motivation" at $19 a bus load in Fort Worth, Texas.

Did you know he got offerd a job as a "greeter" at a hardware store here in Dallas? No shit! He turned it down because the work was too hard.

Remember when George told us he would have a balanced budget by 2009?

And you "fiscally responsible" repubs swallowed that line too!

ROTFLMF'ingAO!!!!!!!

C'mon, for once get real. Your "proof" is still non-proof and your rationalization is as bogus as Cheney's testimony to Federal Agents.

Don't bother me with more of your BS, this is pathetic enough to not warrant any more of my time on this crap. When you have anything that could be considered "real proof" let me know. Until then you are and will remain a joke.

Say, remember when I posted about those repubs running the anti-earmark commission who all asked for more earmarks after they hadn't convened their committee in six months?

Now by their own admission those repubs were doing "serious work".

Maybe you should use them as a model and just not say anything for months and months and hope no one notices. I bet they won't.

ROTFLMF'ingAO!!!

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And again you confuse the profusion of words with critical thinking...I forgive you.

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I know, too many facts you just don't want to face.

Anything more than, "RINO", is far too complex for you.

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Cokie smacks repub wordmeister fraud Frank Luntz!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io7uGOA4Wgg

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First Boehner doesn't know the Constitution and then this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmmZnVM-lFA

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Meet my repub US Representative since 2004, Pete Sessions.

You might remember Pete, he was the elected repub official who claimed the House repubs were just like the Taliban. You see, Pete's not the sharpest knife in the marquee but he had ties to Jack Abramoff and ... HEY! ...

Wait a minute, since 2004?!!!

So PS was voting when GWB was in office?!

Let's double check this just for accuracy ...

Hmmm, Wikipedia says ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Sessions

Hmmmm, yep, he was. That just doesn't seem right when you hear this ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3USHxX_lss&feature=related

I also receive Pete's weekly newsletter. It too is a stitch!

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I know, too many facts you just don't want to face.

Anything more than, "RINO", is far too complex for you.

Too many of your 'facts' are simply other folks opinions...

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Anything more than, "RINO", is far too complex for you.

Too many of your 'facts' are simply other folks opinions...


...says JIMV as he looks into the mirror.

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After all this time that someone could remain so ignorant as to believe all I have are opinions is beyond even what I expected from the very dumbest of repubs. That they still haven't caught on that my "facts" are evidenced by the repubs' very own words and deeds is, I suppose, not so totally surprising since they live in a world devoid of proof and absolutely out of touch with reality.

I don't fake the things I post, I don't make them up - they are out there for all to see if only you open your eyes. They are what they are as they were spoken or performed. The "proof" I provide is the actual event captured on video or in transcript. That these people rely on a Party Leader who conducts his business for three hours per day without anyone to contradict or correct his lies and fabrications is exactly what we've come to expect from the uneducated, uninformed, unable to predict more than 1/2 of 1/2 of one thing and then call that a trend repubs.

None of what I have posted has been refuted simply because there is nothing to debate, it is there for all to witness in their own words as Boehner doesn't recognize the Bill of Rights or another Stoo-Pid repub cannot recite the Pledge of Allegiance we all were supposedly taught in grade school.

Opinions have nothing to do with this unless I label them as such which I clearly did in the case of the Pulitzer Prize winner, Eugene Robinson and his denunciation of repubs' ignorance and self induced fatalistic flaws.

All the other "side" has presented in this thread amounts to nothing more than invective and BS predictions that do not come true. That they cannot divine proof of factual evidence is not surprising - not in the least. Anyone who relies on entertainer's words to form their own opinions has had no concept of "reality", "proof" or "evidence" provided. They are so used to being led by their nose by the corporatists and their media shills they cannot see what is in front of that nose.

Along with the words and deeds I've placed on display within this thread, the idiocy of naming absolute proof as mere opinion justifies the only logical conclusion available - repubs are the Stoo-Pidest and most emotionally driven people on the planet. As such they are not to be taken seriously and the nano-chip thing is sounding better and better. The repubs do not need "re-education", they simply need "an education".

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As you will have it...I have confidence in next years election..I doubt most thinking dems (a contradiction in terms?) can honestly say the same...

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I don't know why you keep thinking I'm a democrat. Anyway, my comment was made because almost every point you make is some parroting of some soundbyte I've heard. Kind of ironic how you'd say that someone's thoughts aren't original, that's all.

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To wrap up ... http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49395793001

http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49395793001

http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49395793001

http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49395793001

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I don't know why you keep thinking I'm a democrat. Anyway, my comment was made because almost every point you make is some parroting of some soundbyte I've heard. Kind of ironic how you'd say that someone's thoughts aren't original, that's all.

Where do you think conservative soundbites come from..tens of thousands of us all talking at the same time on hundreds of forums...If someone says something it gets repeated if folk believe it true...we do not have a direct FAX from the DNC and the old media's talking heads to provide our lines for us...we have to do it the old fashioned way and think of our positions ourselves.

The left should try it sometime...

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If someone says something it gets repeated if folk believe it true...we do not have a direct FAX from the DNC and the old media's talking heads to provide our lines for us...we have to do it the old fashioned way and think of our positions ourselves.

"If" you "believe" it true?

"If"?

"Believe"?

GeeeezojesusHchristallmighty!!!

No wonder you have no concept of proof or evidence. I thought repubs were told by the entertainers that they were the "logic driven" ones? Stand by what you can prove not what you want to believe because it sounds good?!

Yeah, well, so much for that big fat lie. No wonder Ken Starr had such a cushy job.

You guys have entertainers, shills and BS hypocritical elected officials as I've proven here a few dozen times. Why bother with a fax, it would just slow down the "belief" rate? You all talk across the fences like a bunch of neighborhood busybodies spreading gossip about the neighborhood so and so and whatever you "believe" to be true you run with it.

Why would you need "facts"? You do it the old fashioned way - you make shit up and then someone goes, "Oooooh! I like that!", and it spreads like the swine flu.

That is without a doubt the single most damning and outrageous admission of Stoo-Pidity I've ever seen about how repubs really and actually operate their smear machine.

Priceless! Simply Priceless!!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHOojSpTK44&feature=ytn%3Amptnews

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Think "Scozzafava'd" will replace "Borked" on Fixed News?

Naaaaaah!


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http://www.cagle.msnbc.com/news/RepublicansWin/main.asp

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33808995#33808995

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33808995#33610388

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20HXy7YAASc&NR=1

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

And, finally, just plain "Worst" and a surprise, an elected repub official is not #1;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

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Among the Stoo-Pid repubs actions and words, the worst just might be a Dem idea, "The Stupak Amendment";

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#33813559

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28314808/

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Michael Steele, "White repubs are scared of me";

http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49559661001

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9 posts to yourself in reply to your own posts...??

A recommendation...If you post a link to something provide a hint of what that something is about (say quote the first paragraph) and if you are replying to one of us, say who...

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9 posts to yourself in reply to your own posts...??

A recommendation...If you post a link to something provide a hint of what that something is about (say quote the first paragraph) and if you are replying to one of us, say who...

I'm going to posit a theory...

Jan Vigne is a sock-puppet dedicated to the proposition that middle of the roaders and liberals are all insane.

Hence Jan's postings.

This, of course, is exactly a counterpoint to your own admitted, expressed bigotry regarding anyone to the left of Pat Robertson.

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I am most assuredly a conservative...I just do not think the sound of my own words is quite so fascinating and when I have something to say, I try to give folk a hint early.

And yes, we are in a self described center right country governed by a far left cabal....for the moment

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And yes, we are in a self described center right country governed by a far left cabal....for the moment

No, we are in a country with a highly active far-right, reactionary, suppressive minority trying to take over, and a moderate to slightly right government that is elected by the people, as opposed to a cabal.

You, sir, are part of the suppressive, far-right minority that is trying to pull a Munich.

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40% self identify as conservative while only 20% say liberal...

So who represents the country better...the tiny 20% fringe or the 40%?

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When they call it a "Morning Joe Drinking Game," they're not talking about coffee.

A Facebook group has been set up providing rules for a drinking game to play while watching MSNBC's morning program ... if you're into boozing at 6 a.m.

Some of the rules?

- Every time Joe talks about bloggers in their basements eating cheetos -- take a drink.

- Every time Joe calls Hillary Clinton 'his girlfriend' -- take a drink.

- Every time Pat Buchanan references Nixon or Reagan -- take a drink.

http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0911/the_drinking_game.html

The repub fall ... or is it?

http://www.politico.com/largevideobox.html?id=49719224001

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What the repubs will and will not pay for ...


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Look at who's talking to who ...


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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/10/huckabee-suggests-palin-double-standard-2/

Hey, all you RINO hunters, anyone remember Ronnie's 11th commandment?

No?!

Grrrreeeeaaaaat.

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"I signed the largest single tax cut in the history of Florida, a $25 billion tax cut over five years, directed at property tax cuts."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/full-flop/

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Dick Armey doesn't "get" the Supreme Court ...


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Now that you know Dick Armey gets paid $550,000 at Freedom Works, you might want to also take this in ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/

And yet another repub making political hay from the deaths at Ft. Hood ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/33845881#33845881

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Public "sector"/public "option"?

Whatever!

Bill-O's baaaaaaaack ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

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I remember this Reagan quote...

"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs, which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell numbers

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Dick Armey doesn't "get" the Supreme Court ...


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In his own words ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FzNTB1qtFA

Seems all repubs get their opinions over the back fence and have equal predictive skills.

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