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What does the gun lobby have to do with a nutty criminal?
Is that a serious question or are you just playing the partisan fool again?
Of course it was serious...He drove a truck to the center and used it to block a door. When will the auto lobby be reigned in?
Your comment made no sense. If you have a point, make it.
Unfortunately, Jan has an ace in the hole on this one. As a gun owner every time one of these losers pulls off a massacre all I can think of is people like Jan jumping for joy over the ever lasting attack against the Second Amendment to include complete support for the torturer as means to an end and absolute contempt and lack of emotion for the victims. But it's an even trade-off. They leave gun ownership alone for the most part and we don't complain about the hundreds of babies that have a fork stuck their head each day, for the most part as well. It's a sick sadistic cycle. "You know the Germans, they always make good stuff". Like the Super Shami Towel and firearms.
Coincidentally, today I ordered a Beretta 92FS 9mm 15RD BL *ITALY*. The Italians know how to make a great piece. Got a Rizzini over/under (Made in Italy), USMC Remington M40 (Remington Custom Shop/Brigade Armory USA), SAKO Finnfire (Made in Finland), Springfied XD40 (Made in Croatia), and the old standby, Remington Model 870 Pump Riot Gun (made in USA) loaded with #1 buckshot all the time. As you can see the only USA pieces I have are the Remingtons. Everything else was manufactured in Europe. And the Europeans are no slouches when it comes to firearms. What is good for Europe is good for America, right Jan? We don't want to raise their unemployment any higher do we. Did I mention the Navy SEALS have adopted the commercially available SIG P226 9mm pistol (made in Germany through a Swiss company) and are currently looking to replace that with a commercially available HK .45 model (again, Germany).
Why do I own firearms? Home defense and competition. I've been around them all my life. Come and take it.
When it comes to the second amendment their position is a lot like BDS, irrational emotion impervious to all legal and intellectual argument. It is why they normally lose in court and in election except in overwhelming leftist strongholds (which happen to coincide with high crime areas)
That's why I've been a member of the NRA my entire adult life. It was the NRA that taught me proper safety and the responsibility of gun ownership as a child. It was the military that taught to respect a firearm. It is going to be hard for the left to get my guns. Especially, since that security guard won that supreme court case and got his pistol back in Washington D.C. Just one example.
The shooter also wore shoes and a belt to make him a more effective killing machine, those manufacuturers should be included in any response to the unintended consequences of their products. Do you advocate allowing the shoe and belt manufacturers to be included or excluded from the attack I am set to launch on all those who unknowingly and tangentially assisted in the mindless destruction of life? Or would inferring blame on the manufacturers and the lobbies who pushed for the existence and distribution of shoes and belts to all citizens, trained and untrained in their use, rational and irrational, be illogical?
The SPCA and PETA have made me a better pet owner who is more aware of animal rights. Organic land management techniques taught by the County Extension Offices have provided valuable information on how to respect the environment.
The far right nut jobs will have hard time getting my cocker spaniel away from me!!!
Or my tomatoes!
What do the NRA's training programs have to do with the gun lobbies? They are both reaching for the same ring? I don't see the connection. Responsibility of consequences is taught by the NRA, the SPCA and by PETA and the County Extension Offices.
What do the gun lobbies do?
You are for smaller government but you are also for the lobbying power of special interest groups?
Still trying to figure to what your point is meant to be here...
We live in a dangerous world where the folk who are to protect us both don't and have no legal responsibility to do so. That means folk rely on luck, ignorance or self defense to fill the gap.
The NRA falls in the 'self defense' group, as do I.
I looove my Smith and Wesson M+P. Best shooting pistol ever.
(got a sig 220, glock 17, and several others too)
dont want to give them up.
I thought you might be.
That your biggest mistake, Jan. You think too much.
It's plain to see why you would blurt that out, Comrade Commissar Earwig!
ROTFLMAO!
What are you? Fifteen, sixteen years old?
Yet no point remains...