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I'm sure we can all agree this is a homocide.
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This goes above and beyond sticking a fork in a baby's head in the birth canal.


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Only [Dr.] Renelique didn't arrive in time. According to Williams [the mother] and the Florida Department of Health, she went into labor and delivered a live baby girl.

What Williams and the Health Department say happened next has shocked people on both sides of the abortion debate: One of the clinic's owners, who has no medical license, cut the infant's umbilical cord. Williams says the woman placed the baby in a plastic biohazard bag and threw it out.

http://www.buffalonews.com/260/story/570428.html

Well, look at it this way. There is one less single mother on the dole for the time being. I'm sure she'll get pregnant again with another illegitimate child. One can only hope.

I hope I gave a fair and balanced introduction to this tragic story.

Lamont, tell us what you want.

You obviously have some sort of hate fixation with single mothers. You hate abortion.

How about all those single men squirting out sperm? Shouldn't something be done with them?

Why no outrage over daddies not paying for the care of their kids?

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Notice how rarely this sort of tragedy occurs in the gay community.

Heteros are the problem.

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What's up with the deflection away from the story. The baby was murdered. I was just giving two sides before and after the quote and link.

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I agree, killed a human being.

Why the continued tirade about single moms?

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9 out of 10 people on welfare are single mothers. It costs us $112 billion dollars a year. That is over 10% of the most current bailout to save our souls. That's why. I don't disagree with the fathers being bums. The whole thing is a problem. But, "single mothers" are one of the poster victims of the Democratic Party. That's is total bullshit. Society is the victim and single mothers contribute nothing and their offspring become fuck ups. It's a big problem called a "rat fuck".

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So, how about we round up all the single mothers and drown them like unwanted kittens? Would that be ok with you, Lamont? Would that put an end to this tirade?

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So, how about we round up all the single mothers and drown them like unwanted kittens? Would that be ok with you, Lamont? Would that put an end to this tirade?

Alex, you are beginning to sound like a conservative.

The proper liberal response would be to sterilize them and hire them as maids

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What about the dead baby thrown in the trash? Is that okay with you?

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What about the dead baby thrown in the trash? Is that okay with you?

Well, where would you throw it? In the recycle bin?


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Alex, you are beginning to sound like a conservative.

The proper liberal response would be to sterilize them and hire them as maids

Tom, I'm very embarrassed! I had no idea I committed such a faux pas! Yes, by all means, let's hire them as maids. Didn't Neil Young have a song called "A man needs a maid"? Or was it "A man needs a sterile maid?"

In fact, it's better to have a sterile maid because if you decide to tap her, you won't have to throw the baby in the trash later, else wind up with a single mother.

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What about the dead baby thrown in the trash? Is that okay with you?

Well, where would you throw it? In the recycle bin?

Isn't that called adoption?

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That's a good point. It is called adoption. Sort of like picking up other people's refuse. You walk around, you see an old tv, you pick it up. You walk around some more, you see a bookshelf and you pick that up. You walk around some more... wait... wait... is that a baby I see? Seems like it's in pretty good condition. No worse for wear. Yep, by all means, pick it up. Just be sure you're not a single mother when you pick up that baby. Otherwise, that's just hording.

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Well, yes, it is certainly a murder in my book.

And adoption is one of the greatest things on Earth. I think adopting is a greater act of unconditional love than loving your own baby. People who adopt are 'giving away' a lifetime of love and purosefully stepping into the scary world of parenthood. I admire the living Hell out of that.

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Good! Now, that this is settled, I look forward to the next subject of Lamont's rants.

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Well, yes, it is certainly a murder in my book.

And adoption is one of the greatest things on Earth. I think adopting is a greater act of unconditional love than loving your own baby. People who adopt are 'giving away' a lifetime of love and purosefully stepping into the scary world of parenthood. I admire the living Hell out of that.

Buddha, I agree.

Alexo, they put the baby in a biohazard bag. Just in case you were worrying about whether she ended up in just a plain old trash bag or something.

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Oh good! I'm glad they thought of the environment. Remember, safety first!

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Typical liberal bullshit. Pretend nothing happened.

"Just tell them they didn't see it."

-- Bill Clinton

Don't you have a convicted cop killing felon in prison you can write a letter to?

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You could try writing a letter to this guy , but he died in a Texas prison.

Probably deserved to be there, anyway.

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Don't you have a convicted cop killing felon in prison you can write a letter to?

Nah, they write to me. Besides, I only work with women who wish to become single mothers. Someone has to get them started.

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Yeah, having a prior arrest record so police can put your picture in a lineup is not cool. It can get you convicted of a crime you didn't commit. Maybe you guys can write death threats to the actual rape victim. There were six rapes in the same area and this idiot decided to hang out in a dark parking lot in the same area and flirt with a white female undercover agent. Mr. Cole was a thug. Just the sort of hero the Democratic Party will portray as a total victim. You will never hear about his prior gun conviction. Black man with illegal gun later gets wrongly accused of rape for fucking around a dark parking lot in an area that has had several rapes. Yep, Mr. Cole was dumber than a bag of hammers. Even by Texas standards.

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Yeah, having a prior arrest record so police can put your picture in a lineup is not cool. It can get you convicted of a crime you didn't commit. Maybe you guys can write death threats to the actual rape victim. There were six rapes in the same area and this idiot decided to hang out in a dark parking lot in the same area and flirt with a white female undercover agent. Mr. Cole was a thug. Just the sort of hero the Democratic Party will portray as a total victim. You will never hear about his prior gun conviction. Black man with illegal gun later gets wrongly accused of rape for fucking around a dark parking lot in an area that has had several rapes. Yep, Mr. Cole was dumber than a bag of hammers. Even by Texas standards.

Yeah, he had it coming.

The nerve, flirting with a white chick.

There oughta be a law!

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Yep, Mr. Cole was dumber than a bag of hammers. Even by Texas standards.

Does that make him guilty? Does that make him a rapist? I don't quite follow where you make a connection to imply that this is the guy's fault or that he deserves to have died in prison.

This is a clear case of how the system can railroad a poor, dumb fuck.

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My point is if he wasn't such a fuck up he never would have found himself in a position of being convicted of this particular rape. Do you hang around dark parking lots by yourself and tease women in an area that is being stacked out? Anyway, look at it this way. The highest cause of death for black men his age at the time was, and still is, homicide. Society did him a favor. He got to die a natural death under the best medical care the State of Texas could provide. I don't see a problem here. Except maybe the real rapist for this particular young woman could have confessed in 1985 rather than 1995.

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So, you don't see a problem with a stupid schmoe being railroaded by the system? What happens if that stupid schmoe happens to be you? Oh yeah, I know, this could never happen to you because you don't hang out in dark parking lots trying to pick up women. You're way too smart for that. However, you could be just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, you could be picked out of the lineup and you could just happen to be black. Gee, how did that happen?

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What a fascinating moral system you operate from LS. I can't help wondering what it's based on though, cant be Objectivism, Libertarianism or Utilitarianism. Maybe Racist Supremacy ( if one can stretch a point and call that a moral system.

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So, you don't see a problem with a stupid schmoe being railroaded by the system? What happens if that stupid schmoe happens to be you? Oh yeah, I know, this could never happen to you because you don't hang out in dark parking lots trying to pick up women. You're way too smart for that. However, you could be just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, you could be picked out of the lineup and you could just happen to be black. Gee, how did that happen?

Only stupid people think like that, Alex.

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What a fascinating moral system you operate from LS. I can't help wondering what it's based on though, cant be Objectivism, Libertarianism or Utilitarianism. Maybe Racist Supremacy ( if one can stretch a point and call that a moral system.

STFU before we send Quigley back down under to take care of your own racist problems.

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I would love to see the responsible parties lined up and shot, execution style. On public TV.

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That would be the one guy that waited 10 years to confess while Mr. Cole was coughing up a lung in the Texas penal system. Lined up and shot, huh? Cool. Maybe there is nothing wrong with Gitmo after all?

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What exactly is the point you're trying to make?

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I think it's safe to say that Lamont has a set of polarized and colored glasses he wears that are made up of his upbringing and experiences. To expect them to be entirely balanced is unlikely. For any of us -in the end.

We get pushed far enough and the unbalanced points do begin so show or pour out of us, and this- for any of us.

You are close, Lamont. Don't give up. Increase the level in the empathy department, with respects to all areas, ie, even in the places where you have no experience, and then you might get there.

He's obviously upset about this, and I can understand it.

I would not necessarily blame unwed mothers, but more along the lines of blaming the assholes who create a society that they control for their own means-and this result of illiterate and unwed mothers can be seen to be part of it. I blame the assholes who create a society that is purposely undermined in all areas so it can't see beyond the basics of situations and I blame the same assholes who manipulate that in man - as a means of feeding themselves.

Putting labels on it is not good either, as it only allows people to think that the situation exists in stone in some specific way - and that there is only one way to interpret it. This is also false. But it does feed on satisfying the desire in the given man to have great comfort in 'knowing' something. It's the essence of 'the con', carried out in the greater societal and cultural level.

Part of the reason I tend to detest religious texts, and most specifically the low brow approach to enforcement of them. For the most part, any good in any (in any extant religion) of them has been manipulated to or by the points that are listed above for the purposes of 'crowd control', or 'tribalization - as a comfort zone for the physiologically illiterate'...... and thus - the entire religious group is malleable, controllable,and predictable. Thus they can be driven and steered like a giant truck, and used to run all over hell's half acre like a giant toy. 9/11 and everything that came after it was exactly such a game.

Patriotism in America is such a manipulation tactic. As is the idea of zero sum or 'free market', or 'capitalism'. It manipulates the desire in the monkey parts of the brain to feed itself and to hell with anything else. Few in America realize or understand the level and depth of the manipulation - that has been honed to a razor's edge over the last 200 years by the collective that runs America. It flows directly into and out of the unconscious of the monkey part of the brain of the individual and goes unseen by most.

By most, I mean at least 95% or more of the people out there do not see it and cannot see it - as the concept of such an insane and inhumane con is just too much to consider, it would break them.

So they grasp at other answers which are literally and purposely placed into the system to take hold of, in almost the exact same way a scared kitten clutches and cuts your leg with it's claws. They don't call it 'FauX TV' for nothing.

By this, you can see that manipulation of a lesser evolved consciousness is easily achieved by evil, smart, but mentally corrupt men of reptilian nature, ie ones who kill and maim and run over children's heads -with nary a thought.

Which is why religion is generally not for any realistically intelligent men. The smarter the man-the more spiritual they usually are, and the more against any organized religion and against the idea of patriotism, for the reasons stated above.

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Good post, KBK.

We have 'zero sum' audiophiles, too.

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Good post, KBK.

We have 'zero sum' audiophiles, too.

Don't feed the nihilist.

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