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Phelps gets popped for smoking pot.
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OMG!
On the plus side, his technique looks good, and I bet he can take a big draught with those giant highly tuned lungs!
Do we know if he was listening to Cypress Hill?
He's now qualified to become President.
Oh hell, I can't tell you how many times somebody handed me a bong at a party when I was young like that. Obviously, I didn't go on to win 8 gold medals as well. If I was supplying the dope I wouldn't want a bunch of big lunged Olympic athletes hitting on bongs. That much is for sure. "Hey Phelps, this reefer is your own personal reefer. This is all you get. I hope you understand, man."
I Hope he loses every damn one of his sponsorship deals.
Idiot.
Why would you hope that?
Private party, early twenties, bong hits...worked for Clinton, Bush, Obama.
Maybe you can boycott Wheaties and teach him a lesson.
*And he didn't try to drive!
I agree. If I got caught when I was that age I would have been in deep shit. His deep shit is probably or maybe losing a lot of income. Oh, well. Do we really give a rat's ass?
Who cares? It's not a performance enhancing drug, and he's an adult.
The lives and money that are consumed by The Drug War shock and appall me. Legalize it, already. The tax revenue would make the government happy, the drug dealers would stop killing each other and innocent bystanders, and a lot of prison guards and lawyers would be out of work.
Holy crap! A twenty-something y.o. American kid takes occasional tokes from the bong at college parties? No f*&^-ing way, man, never seen such a thing. That's just crazy, let's all be judgmental blowhards and burn his ass at the stake.
Qualified to be a Dem Pres. He has to do coke to be a Repub Pres.
At least he was wearing an Omega watch when he was caught. It would be even MORE embarrassing for everyone involved if he was wearing a non-sponsor's watch.
There are worse things than trading your athletic ability for corporate lucre and shilling mass/crass commercial crap.
Smoking dope isn't one of them.
Don't apologize, Michael- and don't Bogart that bhang!
For reference, looking back at the reference recording thread; Ncdrawl endorsed the recording of:
Jeff Tweedy, who has been a narcotic addict. "He says he'd abuse drugs less while on tour, because touring mandates a fairly rigid schedule."
Ryan Adams, drugs and pot.
Tom Waits..."living in hotels, eating bad food, drinking a lot
If you are going to address me, do so directly, cupcake.
not that id expect a forum dominated by liberals to agree with me........but drugs are bad..ok?
Actually, it may be dominated by liberals but most members are conservatives. Most readers of the magazine are probably conservative as well. Something that causes much angst with the editor.
I mostly agree. (I'm soft on pot.)
I think the real gateway drugs are tobacco and alcohol, but for some reason, society has decided these drugs are OK and conservatives are in favor of the government being "liberal" on those topics.
Not that I expect consistency from society, liberals, or conservatives.
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Actually, wouldn't being soft on pot and wanting less government intrusion in that regard make me a conservative? Libertarian, even?
It seems conservatives are liberal on some issues and want the government (nanny state) involved in limiting abortion access, preventing gay marriage, and drug enforcement.
We're all selectively 'liberals' when we want to government to be more involved on pet issues.
Sorry you can't stand irony, Pomeranian. Thanks for the "drugs are bad" wisdom. Earth-shattering.
Irony, indeed. How witty and befitting for such a "great writer of prose". Wheres that damned eye roll icon?
Alcohol and tobacco are just as evil, total agreement.
Not only a pomeranian, but also cheesy!
I suppose you got the version of Firefox without the spell-check, Herr Mao? Some new literary device? Keep up the good work. You are an unfailing source of amusement.
anyway...
Look forward to seeing how this all plays out...hoping that he(Phelps) learns something from this experience.
"Discretion is the better part of valor"--Herr Mao
Help me, what did I misspell again? Anyway, glad I amuse you. It's a shame I can't say the same about your yelping.
Man, this can all get very mixed up.
Liberals try to make us all wear seat belts, motorcycle and bike helmets, and keep trying to outlaw tobacco use, but they are in favor of loosening drug laws.
They are in favor of killing fetuses, but not convicts.
In a perfect liberal world, you would have to buckle up on your way to get an abortion, and afterward you couldn't have a cigarette at the marijuana bistro or get your pot munchies satisfied with french fries that were made with saturated oil.
Conservatives seem fine with warrantless government wiretaps and expanding governmental power via non-transparent 'executive power,' saying that as long as you aren't a terrorist, why should you care? WTF?
Oh, just noticed this, by the way. You're getting quite good at irony, pomeranian, not just at barking! I remember the first impression I got was when you thoughtlessly accused me of lying when I said DUP said holocaust might not have happened. Then you claimed that if that were true, you'd seriously be disturbed & think twice about what DUP said, etc., and when people verified my post, you just kind of disappeared into silence. I brought it up again, and the same thing happened. Way to stand up behind your words, man.
Think before you speak, before you embarrass yourself again. Seriously, the better part of valor is discretion. Thanks for reminding me.
You also abstain form the worst "drug" of them all: alcohol? Ever hear of a guy getting stoned and beating his wife, robbing a bank, getting into a bar fight? Oh? Me neither? I grew up with some family alcoholics- it's not pretty or fun. Wish they were stoners any day. I'm not against alcohol though- in fact I pride myself on being able to make a superlative classic martini, as well as enjoy it too. Drugs like coke and heroin I can see keeping off the streets. Pot- big deal. It's basically LEGAL up here in Massachusetts. A $100 fine and you're on your way. No worse than speeding, though I wouldn't recommend combining smoking and driving
They actually have medical uses for alcohol as well. Amputees get their stump injected with pure alcohol to relieve phantom pains and so forth. Just one thing other than drinking. Pot has medical uses as well but those that need it would rather smoke it than take it as a pharmaceutical pill. There are the same by-products that are not good for lungs in cannabis as tobacco. So, I'm not buying into the medical need to smoke cannabis. It's like someone needing opiates for pain and the medical community not having a problem with the patient smoking opium.
BTW, I checked. MA averages 10,000 arrests per year for marijuana, which accounts for about 45% of all drug arrests in the state each year. Also, white people make up 80% of marijuana arrests in MA, which has a population that is 87% white. Not exactly illegal? That's what white people say.
Look, you can't fund black ops via importation and distribution, you can't fund a giant incarceration machine, and you can't fund excessive police forces--if pot becomes legal!
It is a known fact that literally -Half- the budget for all those groups would go up in smoke if pot was legal.
Deal with it. Get with the program.
We can barely fund the massive medical industry with alcohol and tobacco legal and accounting for 80% of all hospitalizations. For every action there is an equal opposite action. If pot was to become legal it would be as profitable to government as tobacco and alcohol. So yeah, make it legal and put federal and state tax stamps on it at a premium. That would still make it criminally illegal to sell without the stamps and license.
In the end, analysis of Greek society and the dizzying heights it reached in intellectual musings and unraveling reality -illustrates that it was based on initiation into a system that included the use of a potent mind altering drug to bring about a higher state of being, awareness, and life direction as it's opening act (the initiation itself).
That is the real fear. The idea of people clearing their heads and thinking for themselves. Very bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries
So, Plato was a pothead? I knew we had something in common!
As to this new puritanism in sport; marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug in athletics ( unless you include sex as an athletic activity) so what business is it of anybody's what sports 'heros' do in the own time?
Oh yeah, sports heros are now supposed to be role models of saintly behavior as they indorse obscenely expensive watches, clothing, jewellery etc. From my perspective that's a double hypocrisy. We live in a mad age.
"BTW, I checked. MA averages 10,000 arrests per year for marijuana, which accounts for about 45% of all drug arrests in the state each year."
That WAS true, but by voter referendum effective Jan. 1st it's now no longer a criminal offence (no booking or record etc.) and subject to just confiscation and a $100 fine. This in quantities of an ounce or less. Basically, if you want to grow it, or toke it, it's your business now and if you get caught it's merely a slap on the wrist. Takes it off the books, the courts and out of the police budget.
I wasn't including getting caught with less than an ounce. Didn't Oregon try that as well than later had it repealed? I don't remember.
Altered States of America?
jeesh...does every post from you have to involve pseudo-intellectual rambling?
you've been on that same tired theme for about 100 posts now. Pick a new subject. Just think of all the wonderful dead philosopher/poet quotes you can copy and paste! Dont limit yourself! Plenty of cliches to indulge in!
Ah, pay no attention to KBK. He's just our resident nihilist. That's why it only appears he is posting the same shit for the 100th time. He has something to say. It would be a riddle wrapped in a mystery but because he is a nihilist it really is just a magic trick. We all know there is no such thing as magic. In other words, what he is trying to say is nothingness. You can't win a debate or anything resembling a debate with a nihilist. That's the beauty of nihilism.
There is a new twist to the story...
USA Swimming suspends Phelps for 3 months
Wow, that is over and above criminal law and reaching into high crimes and misdemeanors. With a suspension will come getting dumped by Del Monte Catsup. Del Monte spelled it "Catsup" for decades until some faggot group demanded they spell it "ketchup". I refuse to spell it "ketchup". It will always be "catsup" for me. Pass the "catsup", Phelps".
Hey, don't put me in with the liberals-- most of them are too conservative for me.
I'm more of a social democrat, if such a thing actually existed in the United States.
I've known lots of people who've destroyed their lives with drugs. Some of them have died. Of course, I can say the same thing about alcohol. And my mother died of a tobacco-related cancer.
I still think that almost all illegal drugs should be decriminalized. The legal penalties, in addition to disproportionately affecting poor people, also create a stigma. There are hundreds of thousands of people in the United States who can't *vote* because of past drug convictions. Can't get a job because it shows up as a felony on the background check. Can't get education because people with drug convictions can't get Federal student loans. If it weren't so tragic, it'd be ridiculous. Meanwhile, real criminals are wandering the streets committing violent crimes because the beds in jail are taken up with stupid kids, much like Michael Phelps, who were dumb enough to get caught.
(Briefly, pot should be regulated and taxed more or less like alcohol. Heroin should be prescribable to registered addicts. LSD should be permitted for research-- it showed a lot of promise as a psychotheraputic tool, and appears to have other medical uses. Cocaine and speed also have medical uses, and should be prescribable to registered addicts-- I'm consistent, even though every cokehead I've ever met has been an incredible jerk. No, I don't smoke, pot or otherwise, rarely drink, and probably haven't violated any US drug laws since my 20s.)
You have got to be kidding me. "Social" Security. Emphasis added.
Illicite production of heroin is not a pharmaceutical drug. It is morphine chemical altered to be more potent. Like crack is to cocaine. Nobody in their right mind would want crack prescribed by a doctor anymore than heroin. Except for the UK and Netherlands, which prescribes under strict control as diamorphine for the same uses as morphine such a pallative care as a matter of cost cutting since less is more for heroin. As for "speed" (amphetamines). It is has always been a prescribed pharmaceutical drug for medical use. It's only called "speed" on the street not to be confused with methamphetamine, which has no medical use value at all. Nevertheless, a pharmaceutical version is available as d-methamphetamine (desoxyn). But because of its toxicity it is rarely administered to humans. Illicit production methamphetamine doesn't even come close to pharmaceutical grade. It is generally referred to as crystal meth because of the crystallized deposits it leaves under the skin causing the user to scratch until sores appear on the face, hands, and so forth.
Nevertheless, the most destructive drug of choice is alcohol. It is the only one that destroys every living cell of the human body. Heroin being the least destructive to the body. Death from alcoholism is a horror show compared to death by heroin, which basically only happens during an overdose.
Also, people convicted of a felony lose rights. That is a matter-of-fact. Making out that felony convicts who have lost certain rights because of illegal drugs as victimization is absolutely absurd. These people deserve to lose certain rights. They are not the victims. They are the criminals. Society owes them nothing. God only knows what destruction they have left in their wake. What is it with some of you guys making victims out of people that contribute nothing to society. Now we have convicted felons as victims. What's next?
Next is Lamont being victimized.
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Alex, can I have money for a hot dog?
Are you a single mother? No? Then, no.
Nice burn...
Call me weird, but I don't put people busted for drugs, even for selling drugs, in the same category as people who, say, rape grandmothers and shoot cute children (or vice versa). But that's what the criminal justice system does. And that makes them victims, just as people who were busted for possession of booze during prohibition were victims.
(Diamorphine, which is prescribable in the UK, *is* heroin. Heroin was the brand name of Diamorphine when it was brought on the market by Bayer in 1898. Amphetamines, including crystal meth, were *over the counter* in the United States until the 1950s. All of the amphetamines, including Methamphetamine (Desoxyn), are still prescribable today. LSD was a prescription drug until 1966. Cocaine is still a prescription drug, if you can find a doctor willing to write you a prescription for it, but remember that for fifty years, you could buy it over the counter, or even in compounded drinks like coca-cola. A pharmacist friend of mine has a collection of (empty) bottles of prescription and over-the-counter drugs that are now illegal or highly restricted, including tincture of cannabis, laudanum, cocaine, and LSD.)
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9814127
I don't know if it's because I'm also from Phila. but I agree with Lionel. Leave drug users alone and go after rapists pedophiles and others of that type.
the two arent mutually exclusive, bud...id venture to say that a lot of murderers, rapists, and general screwups are drug users.
that is how we roll in cackalack, Lamont.
That's like saying because all criminals breath air and are born of woman we should restrict the use of air and confine women because they might have a baby who could grow up to be a pot smoker.
Most drug usage and prostitution belong in the victimless crime category. Smoking pot and prostitution should not only be decriminalized they both should be legalized. There would then be plenty of space in the prisons for those pesky rapists, murderers and child molesters. Although I am inclined to lean towards execution for child molesters as they are incurable.
Frankly, I think we make too big a deal over a little weed smoking. Steroids, now there is a problem!
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food."
BIBLE, Genesis 1:29-30
Maybe God is trying to tell us we should eat pot, not smoke it.
How does a Christain reconcile the legislation of forbidden plant life?
Don't get me started.
Did you know it's illegal to lick that kind of toad that gets people high?
Number one, if some idiot was able to figure that out, I'll allow it based on the trial and error he must have gone through before hitting that jackpot.
So, the government finds out there are toad lickers who enjoy the result, and the government decides that if people like to do it, then it must be 'wrong' so they outlaw it.
You can go and throw frogs up in the air and hit them with tennis rackets and then eat their legs, but you can't lick a toad.
If pot made chemo users' nausea better but made them dysphoric, it would be brave of them to use pot to fight cancer, but since they like how pot makes them feel, it is an evil to make illegal.
WTF?
Antidepressants, tranquilizers, anxiety pills like Valium and Xanax, all legal, and they make people feel better.
Why would that be? If people like being on them, they should be made illegal.
Confession: Naproxen makes me a little euphoric when I take it. Should it be legal only for people who don't react that way?
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