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As a 63 year old hippie who still has the odd joint on birthdays, high and holy days I find your remarks offensive. I won't bother listing my achievements for fear of sounding as if I'm up myself. Simply allow me to state that many geriatric hippies, such as myself, do not sit around in smoke filled rooms giggling and being unproductive. As to why you HATE hippies I suggest that can only be uncovered by your psychiatrist, if you have one. Oh, and while we're on the subject of hating, I'm a faggot. Do you hate faggots as well?
We appear however to have one thing in common. I've never been able to see the point of golf and regard it as a form of entertainment, not a sport. Far too slow and pointless. My preference was for long distance running until that activity mangled my knee joints.
Please explain a little about this 'disk golf' Mr Drawl. I'm unfamiliar with the term. Is this a variation of frizby throwing done with CD's, or some such? That could be dangerous if one landed in your face.
One of the great passtimes.
Been playing since elementary school. We actually thought we invented it.
If you insist on the mutli-disc approach:
Aerobie mid distance, approach, putter.
AND...
Their EPIC DRIVER is one of the best things I've ever seen.
Variations abound...
1) Get one good allaround disc, like an Innova Panther and use it for all your shots. Playing with one disc will hone your game more quickly and make you a better shot maker.
2) In the same vein, go to Discovering the World and grab a Zephyr. It will also force you to focus on shot making and allows for games in smaller areas.
3) The entire world is now your disc glf course. We play 'urban' disc golf, with 'holes' being trees, light poles, sign posts, etc. Depending on where you decide to ramble, playing a street can be exciting, making cars a stroke penalty if hit, or pavement being water, etc...feel free to invent courses!
4) My favorite variation is on all shots made after yoiur drive, you must keep one foot on the spot where the disc landing while making your next shot. Makes for some insterest off posture throws. This thing where people mark where their discs land and then take run up behind that point is too much like using another tee in the fairway.
Fabulous game!
I worry you may be too conservative to really get it, though. You hate hippie types and Dead Heads? What's to hate?
Come on Buddha. I can't believe that you are falling for it. Magic plastics come on. They are all teh same and you're wasting your money. Frisbees chowed up by my dog are just as good. Where is teh data that proves a need for a better disc. It's a scam! Mr. Van Alstine told me so and if you listened to Buddy Guy you'd be smarter.
Fun game, got a few courses in my area too. Note how one part of your hippie stereotype has now vaporized? Maybe more to come?
When I was 20, Fort Collins, Colorado was the Frisbee mecca, so I figured I'd hang and do a little grad school and maybe be a pro disc golfer.
I got to know "Mr Disc Golf," who was at the tip top of the heap, and got to play hith him here and there.
One day he told me I ought to think about actually trying to play professionally, and I asked him how lucrative it was.
He told me, "Oh, it's great, I make nearly twenty thousand bucks a year!"
Granted, this was 1980, but I immediately made a mental note - find different career.
nc,
I grew up in La Mirada. This is where the 2008 PDGA Golden State Classic disc golf tournament was played at La Mirada Regional Park on a Dave Dunipace designed championship course. Whatever that fucking means.
We were playing frisbee golf in the early '70's- usually stoned, btw. It's the hippies' answer to ultra-competitive, chest thumping, rah-rah B.S. We also dropped acid back then, because we were pretty sure Nixon and Vietnam were the reality of a different world and we didn't belong to it. We were right. We saw God- and God was laughing his ass off at us!
So I don't have any "tips" to make you more competitive. Why don't you try catching a buzz and enjoying all the different people in this world? We're enjoying the hell out of you.
Well, it is a game that is just like golf in that there are several types of discs that are analogous to golf clubs IE "driver" discs for long-range shots, "midrange" discs for well, midrange shots, and "putters" for putting. one stands at the tee, and throws, goes to whereever the disc lands and throws again, till complete.. there are birdies, bogies, mulligans, etc. The hole is a basket with chains in the center, sorta.
as for the hippie thing... I guess my hatred is for the new generation of fakers, the idiots who put more emphasis on drugs, choose to be jobless, worthless individuals who do not bathe, and listen to music that is annoying, noodling, absent of any point, structure or enjoyment(unless one is high)
as per your "faggot" statement, hell no. I love gay guys, hell, my best friend in the world is , as he says it "queer as a football bat"(his words, not mine), given what I do(the whole singer/opera thing), it would be impossible to be a homophobe. when I was in high school, all the way up till I was about 25 or so, I used to hang out with my drama teacher and his partner, and had a hell of a lot of fun in the gay bars. my girlfriend at the time and I went to the gay bars more than the straight ones, we could get trashed without having to pay a cent. Evil, I know, but we all have our vices.
so, no, I dont hate gay folk. Many of my good friends(including my best friend since age 11 or so) are gay. I dont care too much for the flamboyant types, but the gay community does not have a monopoly on those, either.
my catching a buzz days are over, rvance. when I was 13-21 it was fun, very fun, a way of life. many good times, some very bad trips too, but on my 22nd birthday I realized that I was having to be trashed every day just to function(opiods and benzodiazepenes were my drugs of choice, though at the time, id do anything that was in front of me, save crack).. how I made it through college is a mystery still. one day I caught myself taking duragesic patches from my dying aunt. mom came in, burst into tears, and I felt about 3 inches tall. there was one other instance too that made me do a 180 around the same time...but any way.. within 2 weeks of the duragesic incident, I was on a plane to fort benning, GA. I was tired of it, and on a road to certain death, anyway, joined the army, briefly got into party mode (drinking only, but way, way too much, and womanizing, bar fighting all the time)..that continued until I met my wife, and ive been sober ever since(6 years). feel like a million bucks now, best shape of my life...
anyway, my issues are with the "stereotype modern hippy" not the pioneers..., and I am old enough to realize just what types of people annoy the hell out of me. I can say with confidence that some personality types irk the hell out of me. the neohippy is one of em.....Guidos are another. Im not really a "let us all get along, brother" type guy, more of... "I am going to avoid certain types of people because they make my blood boil"
that being said, my mentor when I was involved heavily in theatre was a vietnam veteran turned protesting hippy with a beard about 4 feet long.. turned me on to some of walt whitmans "leaves of grass" and other cool things... he embodies , in my mind, the ideal of what I believe a hippy should be(equal parts buddha and jesus, kind, humble, and wise beyond his years.
Yeah, that's what I hate about regular golf, too!
Thoughtful and considerate reply, nc. Nowadays my "buzzes" are restricted to the occasional Northern Cal- South. Oregon microbrew and some cabs I have aging in the bottle...BUT I fondly recall the spirit of brotherhood and discovery we enjoyed in the formative years of our radicalism.
We still see the B.S. (like the Humboldt State neo-hips with their inept blond dreadlocks and Rush Limbaugh on drugs), but are a little more patient, knowing what we put our parents through in a much more conservative time.
At the same time disc golf was developing in the early '70's, the hacky sack came out. The "official" rules of starting play were to throw the bag against the chest of a player and yell "Coos Bay!"- for the small coastal Oregon town of its originators. Weird, huh? But rather sweet on the semi-cosmic scale of things.
I hope you enjoy your new hobby/pastime. And please take your Cobra out once in a while and wake up the neighbors.
i will, and I do
I used to be a hippie and I love golf! I agree it's not really a sport so much as it is a competition of skill. It's the only activity that's enjoyable even when you aren't good at it. Well, besides sex.
Most of the people who "hate" (extreme word, extreme judgement...) golf, hate it because it is too demanding. They hit a few balls at the range and decide that the specific coordinated moves, between the large muscles of the torso and legs, on the one hand, and the hands and arms, on the other, are too difficult to handle.
I love golf. I have been playing for 40 years. I was a high-school and university athlete in baseball, track, and football (the latter limited to a few concussive encounters with free safeties and linebackers), and I thought golf would be an extension of baseball. There are general similarities, but in baseball, it is a virtue to hit the ball crooked. In golf, one has to develop repeatable moves that generate consistent accuracy.
I don't want to argue. But golf has been a great game for me. It has been challenging, and it has rewarded my good habits and punished my bad ones. And, after all these years, I still don't play as well as I would like to. But, after all these years, I am still getting better at it. Which, in my view, is the point of any game. If it doesn't give you an impossibly high mountain to climb, then why bother with it?
This other golf you mention -- an evolution of "folf" (golf with frisbees, which requires no coordination, discipline, or any other mental or physical challenge), no doubt?
I congratulate you for hating a game that requires a lifetime of learning, in both the physical and mental domains, and taking up a game that requires none of the above. And, for posting a thread that celebrates the easiness of the choice.
You run 10 miles a day. How fast? Your 90-year-old grandmother can do 10 miles a day -- if she has all day. What does THAT have to do with hating golf and loving "disc golf"?
Aussie, nobody cares if you are a "fag." Why do you feel the need to tell us this pathetically insignificant information? And what does this have to do with the difference between golf and folf (or disc golf, or whatever...)? Is this a quasi-evangelical thing? "Hello -- my name is Joe, and I'm gay." "Hello -- my name is Fred, and I love Jesus." "Hello -- my name is George, and I'm an alcoholic." "Hello -- my name is Edwin, and I'll fuck anything that has a hole and isn't moving too fast." "Hello -- my name is Clifton, and I'll fuck anything that has a pussy...no offense intended."
Who CARES what you do with your dick? And what does this have to do with GOLF or running 10 miles a day???
Fore.
actually disc golf requires a great deal of skill, discipline, coordination..(to be good at it any way).. and I have seen some courses that , had they been "real" golf courses, would give any golfer a fit. Some hard stuff, no joke. I like this game much better than the clubbed sort.