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Well, I re-read the review, and I think I gotta hear these babies.

Trouble is, we don't really know how they sound.

Poor Wes had to snap on a different and new set of speaker wires, so no telling whether what he heard was due to the wires or the speakers.

Perhaps that slight glassiness was the cables.

How will we know?

Plus, how were the cables broken in?

Can it really be a valid review if two new components were auditioned simultaneously? I wonder how they would have performed with Wes' preferred cables.

If speaker cables really mattered, you'd think we'd hear more about them in speaker reviews!

You know, "...with the Nordost Yaweh cables, the speakers had transcendant bass, but harps sounded a little cloudy. With the Audioquest Styx (their latest cables named for a river) the bass was stygian, with a darker and more forboding edge than the Yawehs offered, and were a bit reticent regarding the air around gossamer tympany. If you are a Samuel Ramey fan, go with the Styx, if you prefer more ethereal music, go with the Yaweh..."

These speakers would be perfect for a Product Update with a discussion about how cabling affected their performance.

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If you are a Samuel Ramey fan, go with the Styx, if you prefer more ethereal music, go with the Yaweh..."

Thanks for the laugh!

Hi JA

I haven't received my copy of this issue yet so you may have covered this in the review.

Do you know of any way to arrange measurements such as by carefully choosing microphone distance or by placing the speaker in a corner or in a very large or small room that could have resulted in a legiimate bass extension for these speakers of 16Hz (or whatever they claim)?

Or were Definitve Technology quoting the response of the inbuilt sub amp (if this model has one) in such a way it looks to be quoting the response of the speaker? This seems to be common in suboofer brochures. Surely the figures weren't just there for marketing purposes?

Jeremy

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Do you know of any way to arrange measurements such as by carefully choosing microphone distance or by placing the speaker in a corner or in a very large or small room that could have resulted in a legiimate bass extension for these speakers of 16Hz (or whatever they claim)?

No, because of the presence of the infrasonic filter to protect the woofer from overload.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Thanks, JA.

What about in the case of speakers without such fiters? Do you know of any creative measurement techniques that can make a speaker appear to have an extra octave of bass extension?

Jeremy

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What about in the case of speakers without such fiters? Do you know of any creative measurement techniques that can make a speaker appear to have an extra octave of bass extension?

Set up the speaker in the corners in way too small a room and measure the in-room response. The boundary reinforcement will raise the low bass by a surprisingly large amount.

The only time I visited Harry Pearson of TAS, in 1984 or '85, he had Infinity IRSes set up in a small room. The speakers had much to commend, but the excessive low bass that resulted from the boundary reinforcement was oppressive.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile