As stated, there would be great debate. Even heated debate. Even negative debate based on hyperobla and incomplete understandings of what is going on, here, with regards to conduction.

Some, specifically one individual, is proving me correct in that assessment.

The reason I engaged that person, the guy hiding behind the false name and slinging arrows for no obvious reason but potentially personal ones..is that he was not doing anyone a service here.

I personally feel that the manufacturer's area for announcements should be off limits for new members, until they can be shown, over time (20-to 50 posts) that they have some basic form of civility and aren't here to engage in a personal agenda.

I believe in in disclosure, so I'll say I've emailed Stephen and even phoned him on this, as I've lost my patience with him (the negative individual, not Stephen!). I've even asked that his obviously non-constructive posts be deleted, as this is turning into the kind of horror show that makes no manufacturer ever desire to show their face or product here. I've begun to loose my patience with this sort of baiting, which saddens me that it has come to this.

Edit: I see that Stephen has come up with a compromise of sorts, concerning this thread...which is fine. We'll have fun seeing how this experiment turns out.

I was attempting to use humour in the inital post, hopefully it was interpreted that way. Buddha's thread shows that to be true.

As for the exact details of what has gone on here, for the newcomers to this thread -if you are curious.. search around on the forum, you'll find the source of this..out there..somewhere...